Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

"I dont want tough fights" agreed joe with josey

 

I'm not worrying about his finances. I'm just pointing out to you that Joe didn't fight Roy purely for financial reasons. He fought him due to his ego.

Even before he fought Hopkins, he dismissed the idea of fighting Roy, saying in a live interview on Setanta Sports, that Roy was past his best, before also saying that he'd be disappointed to end his career with a fight against him. Yet shortly afterwards, he then contacted Roy personally to make the fight.

Kelly and his team wanted to fight Roy after the Hopkins fight. Kelly then fought Joe's stablemate, Gary Lockett, knocking him out in 3 rounds in June. He then pursued the fight again. He only signed to fight Hopkins after Joe wasn't interested.

Of course nobody would have been interested in a Joe-Kelly fight after he'd been beaten by Hopkins. But it could have been a big fight beforehand. Personally, I think it would have done very good PPV numbers, and Joe could still have made huge money, especially if he'd have split with Frank W like he did before he fought Roy. Kelly was happy with the $3m guarantee he got to fight Hopkins, and Joe wouldn't have needed to have given him the 50% that he gave Roy.

 

I have shown you several interviews and you seem to be pretending I havent in one breath but in the next say he was talking nonsense.
I have even shown you a link where Roy was talking of dropping back to SMW to face Calzaghe in the Uk.
If you deny seeing any of that, then we both know that you are lying unless you have amnesia of course
Now if thats not an agenda...

 

Ok... So you have no agenda but when you show a direct quote it stands but when I do it it doesnt. Thats double standards again, in the same way I always used to pick you up for it

 

You tried to act like he wouldnt travel.
Now tell me who all these American SMWs were that Calzaghe should have specifically traveled to face and when
Cant wait for this answer

 

More comfortable lol. He had been at MW not long before. He went to LHW after Calzaghe beat Lacy. He was on the Calzaghe/Lacy undercard and had not long before won the WBO NABO SMW title and then after that fight went to LHW. He chose to go to LHW rather than face Calzaghe, and you say he was more comfortable at LHW which he may be, but was willing to drop back to SMW years later. So you once again make little sense.
He went to LHW and fought many fighters around a decade older. You note Calzaghe beating Hopkins but dont note that Calzaghe was also alot older. But thats Loudons agenda showing through again. All too easy to expose

 

Respect all boxers Loudon. Dont tell me what I did and didnt have

 

It was a lot.

Some reports quoted as much as $10m, with HBO taking a loss. I don't if that's true, but Roy got a 50-50 deal. After fighting low level guys like Hanshaw and Ajamu, Roy must have thought that it was Christmas when he landed fights against Tito and Joe.

 

Joe could still have fought Kelly without Frank W, and he wouldn't have had to have given Kelly anything like a 50-50 split.

Having Roy on his resume meant everything to Joe. He'd admired for him years. You've got to be kidding if you think that Joe was classy offering him a 50-50 deal. He didn't do that as a gesture out of respect, he obviously did it so that Roy would accept the deal. He did it due to his ego. He wanted to retire with a legend and the best fighter of his generation on his resume. And that was despite saying on numerous occasions that a fight would be pointless due to Roy being shot.

I hope that you have a great holiday.

 

"Im not chasing Roy Jones" agreed Calzaghe "except when hes four years past when I think hes shot" he added with a mad smile "oops that nearly didnt work out when i tried it with bernard, boyo"

 

Roy was chasing the fight with calzaghe.
You are making stuff up saying calzaghe offering 50/50 to get the fight. We don't know what actually happened. We know jones wanted to fight calzaghe but we don't know the ins and outs of the conversation. They discussed and made a deal between themselves. Maybe Jones negotiated well? We don't know but I get the impression Jones would have taken the fight had it not been that much. But as said, we don't know

 

I haven't denied seeing it.

I have seen it many, many times.

I don't care what Joe said.

I've been telling you now for 6 years that if Joe had truly wanted to have fought Roy earlier, he'd have moved up to Roy's weight class and fought in the U.S. like Showtime wanted him to.

It was completely unrealistic to expect the world's best fighter to travel to Britain and to drop back down to SMW, to a fight a relatively unknown WBO champ.

You are living in a fantasy.

There were only ever 2 ways that the fight could have happened sooner:

1. If he'd have fought in the U.S. to raise his profile, where he may have been able to have created a demand for the fight.

2. If he'd have moved up to LHW and worked his way up the rankings into a mandatory position.

I don't care how many interviews you post up. They're cringeworthy and have no value.

We know that after Joe had made those comments that he remained at SMW to fight the likes of Jiminez etc.

The whole purpose of those early 00's interviews, was to massage his ego in public, and to fool the casuals into thinking that he was ambitious. And if you'd really lived through the era, then you would know that.

 

faily it was your friend josey wale who said 50/50.

once again you fail, no wonder you are called failey.

 

44 pages deep. Calzaghe is still box office on ESB it seems. Herol take a bow, you're promoting better than Warren ever did.

 

I'm certain that you're now trolling me.