Carl Froch's Options

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  1. Funtime Frankie

    Funtime Frankie Member Full Member

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    Ward shouldn't worry about Froch as he beat him

    Kessler shouldn't have worried about Froch because he beat him
     
  2. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not sure he can take another barrage like he took in the first fight, despite his excellent chin. The punishment he took especially in the 6th round was earth shattering. But I can see him come back better than before and the same with Groves. The second fight should pan out differently....
     
  3. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed on some of the points, but a fight against either Kovalev and Adonis could easily happen. Froch will generate the money and both these fighters are game for the fight, they've said so. Also the US would take it up too as they know that Froch bringx the excitement.
     
  4. Solarse

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    At 36 you maybe right, but thats why its his choice on the rematch.....if he was 26 and not rematching I'd call him a ducker as well. But not at 36 !!
     
  5. Bub

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    Kessler fight isn't appealing at this stage. Kessler seems like he might be done. Don't think the fans are that interested.

    Ward is pointless. Boring, forgone conclusion.

    GGG doesn't seem interested in moving up until he's had some big fights at MW.

    Chavez Jr, I don't know anything about him. If it's a winnable, big money fight it makes sense for Froch to cash out but as I know nothing about Chavez, I don't really know how if he could beat Froch or if he brings more money than Groves.

    Groves is the obvious choice, it would bring money and it's what the fans want. If he wins it's vindication, if he loses at least he went out like the warrior he says he is, the people will respect him and he'll still get paid.

    The fact that Froch has been dismissing the idea of a Groves rematch could put him in a strong position for negotiations. Groves will be desperate and might accept a rematch for peanuts.
     
  6. GJM

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    Chavez a year ago would bring money to equal Groves, but now it's not as clear cut. He looked horrible against Vera and if I remember right the ratings weren't great for that, so maybe he won't bring as much cash to the table as he once would have? He is however, a lot easier fight than Groves. Chavez's best victories have all come from being the bigger, tougher man when he was down at middleweight. Against Froch he'd be in with someone just as tough, just as big and technically a bit better.
     
  7. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    Well for you to say if Froch fights Groves and loses, he gets no more big fights isn't an excuse then. In fact if Froch does not give Groves the rematch then we both know why? And it isn't about lack of money or fear of losing out in big fights.

    Another thing Froch wouldn't fight Adonis when he was his mandatory at 168 lbs so what makes you think he would move up to 175 to fight him when Froch has clearly stated he will never move up in weight. Froch wont fight GGG either because that fight is all wrong for him and he would end up getting stopped for the first time so he wont fight him never mind fighting KOVALEV AT LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT! I mean come on man Kovalev would hurt him because Froch would just stand in front of him. I cant see Froch taking any of these fights.

    Finally, to answer your question if I was in Froch's position what would i do? I would probably retire going on the punishment he took in his last fight, but if i were to continue then i would finish what I started and give Groves the rematch.
     
  8. Solarse

    Solarse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Simple rematch groves and smash the ginger tosser......had the fight of his life 1st time around and still coudn't win.
     
  9. LeeJonesJnr

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    I don't really like Froch or Groves but they still put on a great fight (admittedly Groves did the heavy lifting) and whilst I agree with most that the stoppage was premature, we will never really know if Froch would have been able to pull out a stoppage. Taylor whipped him for 11 rounds then got stopped so we know Froch is capable of it. A rematch would be great but I would again call it a 50-50 fight as I feel that Froch believed he would walk it and wasn't properly prepared.

    Kessler isn't a big money fight (assuming Kessler isn't retired - I believe he is?) as I think many would agree that Kessler is not really Kessler anymore. In his day Froch would always come up short. The americans wouldn't be interested in that match.

    Ward is still head and shoulders above all other SMs at the moment including Froch. If he chases that it is simply because it pays well, he must know that he cannot win.

    Why everyone is always looking for a fighter to move up in weight I don't know, but the likely opponent would be Pascal or Bute again I reckon. Okay payday in Canada but sales might struggle here for anything other than Groves.

    If he were to box either of the 'other' LHs I would say Stevenson as he has a chance to win that. Kovalev wants giving a wide berth.
     
  10. Rhodesie9

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    Agree with Bub here,I have always been a big Froch fan.....but looking at his last two fights I genuinely think he has only one last big fight in him,no disgrace in that after a brilliant career and 36years of age.I repeat the only logical fight is Groves,this time he wins legit ,has the biggest payday of his career and silences all the critics,it's a no brainer.
     
  11. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Problem is i strongly think Carl showed how on the slide he is in his last fight out of those you listed and Ward he IMO only beats 2 Kessler and Pascal. He has less chance of beating Ward or Kovalev then beating Groves. Now if you are of the opinion that Groves beats him 100% (i'm not) then surely unless your an idiot you loose for the most money possible, Ward beats him and Carl get's paid less same with Kovalev and GGG. Kessler fight would get massive stick and rightly so it would be a clear cherry pick. Pascal personally i've no interest nor can they hype Pascal up much. With JCC out of the picture reality is unless Carl is an idiot he should fight Groves from both a legacy and Financial point of view.
     
  12. Westy78

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    Rematch between them would be great and hopefully matches the first fight but If Froch loses the rematch will that not affect his legacy as much as not facing him.
     
  13. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kessler 3?!!! Has boxing gotten so bad we need to see Kessler v Froch again? Kessler was prime 6 years ago, he is a shadow of his former self now.

    Froch v Groves or nothing. Stop accepting second best. Letting the fighters feed us shite is the reason we are seeing the pound for pound champ fight bloody Khan!!!
     
  14. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    It HAS to be Groves, no if's or but's about it.