Cassius Clay vs Alex Miteff (How Much Did They Pay Alex To Take A Dive)

Alex was trying prety hard - why would he try and score a KO against the kid if he was having to make it last 6 rounds? Miteff was throwing bombs.

I think miteff wanted out, clays anchor punch landed but alex either decided "I cant knock this kid out, so whats the point?" ...or it was a better punch than it looked on film. I still did not buy the drunken walk and the stoppage. I think things were prety even and alex deserved to continue. but he did not want to.

 

Ali didn't have the Anchor Punch until just before his second bout with Liston.

It was taught to him by Stepin Fetchit, who had learned it from Jack Johnson.

This is what Ali said, and he did not lie

 

But we just saw it in the Miteff fight,or did we imagine it?

 

You must have imagined it.

Ali, himself said he had just learned the AP just before knocking Liston out with it. That was 1965.

What you might have seen was the $10K punch or the rig- a -bout punch.

 

Such garbage. Product of a real sick mind.

 

Thats funny. Another example of Pepe not being able to get his story straight. So which is it? Was it a fix, Miteff being washed up, or did Ali have loaded gloves? Or is your thesis that it was a combination of all three. Ali was so bad after a sterling amateur career that he had to be protected against a faded Miteff, who was never that good anyway, by loading his gloves AND fixing the fight...

Pepe/Duce needs to research the principle of Occam's razor before posting his garbage.

 

Wow, so they really went all out on the conspiracy. This was better planned, and more well thought out than the JFK assassination.

All to make sure a hot prospect didnt lose to a guy who had only won two of his last seven fights, would lose his next fight much the same way as he lost to Ali (only to a lesser fighter than Ali) only one month later and then retire for five years. Yup, makes perfect sense... If you are bat**** crazy, which you sir are.

 

Do you have anything to contribute to Pepe's threads instead of insults, Tywin?

So far, all you've shown me is that you have the blind faith of a seven year old who still believes boxing was a completely pure sport and everything is exactly as it seems. Whether Pepe is correct in his research or not, he still contributes more in a week in his non-Ali/Duran threads than you have in your whole tenure here.

If I remember correctly, you're the genius who believed Pipino Cuevas was barnstorming through Texas sparring with 15 year olds because he couldn't find "appropriate sparring" in L.A a week before a scheduled title defense. Brilliant.

If you don't like his threads, then do the rest of us a favor and disappear from them in the future.

 

Correction: I was the one who argued that Pepe/Duce saying the sparring session never happened because there was no film of it was a weak argument at best. Below is my actual quote and you can see I made it clear that I wasnt supporting or denying the story itself:

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Dont worry, you dont have to apologize, I'll just assume...


We can argue the merits of what Pepe/Duce brings to this forum with his lies and supposition but the fact remains that it is a public forum, if Pepe continues to post his garbage he can expect to continue to get criticized for it by myself and others.

I would suggest if you are such a fan of this revisionist tripe, and cant suffer its rebuttal then I suggest you two get a room together where you can agree on how nothing is boxing is what it seems.

 

:-( Extraordinary

 

This is not revisionism....it's out and out lies without anything to back it up.