Caught using PED's ! Life Ban

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  1. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Life ban seems a little harsh considering loaded gloves offense landed Margarito a one year sentence. I say 1 year ban first offense. 3 year ban 2nd offense. My reasoning is that all of the top athletes are on it. It's BS if someone says they are 100% clean. They all push the boundaries with "supplements". There is too much money to be made.
     
  2. joeyp130

    joeyp130 Active Member Full Member

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    I know I'll get bashed relentlessly for this, but since it seems like quite a few have done it at the top of almost every sport, just have it wide open..use whatever you want..and why is it such a shock that a world class athlete would try almost any sort of PED to get an edge.

    That's just a devil's advocate point of view btw.
     
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  3. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    We'll have no boxing in our lifetime then.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Life time bans would be great in theory but in the real world wouldn't work. The reason why life time bans are not enforced is because by denying a person for their entire life their chosen vocation you make it a human rights issue and also by not adhering to WADA's recommended 2 year ban it opens it up to be legally challenged.

    Once it gets to a court of law the failing of the science of anti-doping testing would get exposed and the person would get off. You'd have to 100% prove the person cheated, that it wasn't accidentally taken for example. They'd lose too many cases and the person instead of serving a 2 year ban would likely get off scott free plus get a pay out for any time they didn't compete.

    Until the science catches up we are stuck with the current situation. But of course by then the methods of doping will have surpassed the science of anti-doping. I mean how do you test for gene editing?
     
  5. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    some of these sports are already dangerous, bigger stronger faster add the the lethal inherent risk.

    same with mary jane its risky to legalize these things. for instance cocaine use to be legal over the counter and used in favorite beverage coca cola. the whole country was buzzed lol. not good.
     
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  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 VIP Member Full Member

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    Lifetime bans would put too much power in the hands of testing labs and organizations, making them a bigger magnet for corruption than they already are. If all it took was one positive test to bury a guy for life, the money and heat coming on them to make sure certain fighters tested hot would be through the roof. It'd basically turn into a way to eliminate a guy for good without the murder charges.
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 VIP Member Full Member

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    Good point. Instances of this would also shoot through the roof.
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 VIP Member Full Member

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    Bingo. The usual MO is for people to claim that there used to be a drug problem in their particular sport a couple eras back, but it's all clean now. Hard to buy into that when records are still getting broken- we'd need to see the collective group take a step back performance wise for that argument to make sense.

    The NFL are pros at playing that game. They have no problem admitting the 70's and 80's were loaded with PED's, but we're supposed to buy in that it's all clean now because of some rudimentary testing, despite the players being bigger, stronger, and faster.
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Louis Resto DID get a lifetime ban & rightly so. BUT Accusations & blatant lies ars NOT proof of guilt.
    Who would enforce the lifetime bans for PED's use?? The State Commissions ?? ROFL A state commission allowed a boxer to apply for a TUE for an ILLEGAL EXCESSIVE 750 ml Saline drip he was caught receiving THREE WEEKS AFTER the event & GRANTED IT:duh:duh Then issued a statement that the boxer DID NOTHING WRONG:confundio:
     
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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You forget to mention the fact that Margarito's wraps were deemed HARMLESS
    By the lab that tested them. But by then the ban imposed by the CSAC was already in force. Classic case of a Kengaroo court
     
  11. DoubleRiver

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    Suspend them for 6 months.Take them out of top 10 rankings.If they fail again it should be 2 years,then 5 years.Also must pay a fine.
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz VIP Member Full Member

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    Loaded gloves deserves a lifetime ban. PEDs can be ingested accidentally or purposely.
     
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  13. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's true. However, if a boxer just stays away from PEDs as in not have it in his household, where he trains, away from people who use it, etc., it would be far fetched to get PED into his body by accident.
     
  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I say let them fight, But they must use 16oz gloves and 5lb ankle weights in 3 consecutive fights.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Roid Jones was busted in Indiana, Mosely admitted it, not to mention so many others, but cheaters like SOB would always get away with it so would Void..............