Chageav is much better then Haye

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  1. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye is a different class to Chageav, its going to be a boring 1 sided fight in favour of Wlad. Lopsided decision or late TKO
     
  2. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    how do you know the haye fight would be any different just becuase he got off the floor against mormeck?
     
  3. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    Um....Thompson's chin is closer to glass than iron. Heart and determination is something the man had in abundance, as well as one punch power. But chin? Hell no.
     
  4. AffectedToaster

    AffectedToaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    its hard to say weather haye is better b/c he's unproven at HW
     
  5. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here's another thing, Wlad has trouble with Southpaws. We saw what happened to him in the Sanders fight and now he is fighting a much better, more experienced fighter then Corrie Sanders who is a Southpaw (Chagaev)
     
  6. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe 3 years ago Chagaev was better but Chagaev's last time out was an embarassment. He was lucky to get the decision over Carl Davis Drummond, a guy who's barely a journeyman that no one has ever heard of. Why is everyone forgetting this? When that fight was stopped on the cut I had Drummond beating Chagaev! He looked ****ing awful in his last fight which makes me think that at this point Haye is a far more formidable opponent.
     
  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    How anyone can watch this and suggest 'Thompson has no chin' is a complete joke statement, IMO.

    :lol:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuD5ZG0Wx4k
     
  8. Shane

    Shane Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Axe man's head is going to explode over this one where is he..lol
     
  9. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It will be like watching the klitschko Ibragimov fight again, boring as hell with a predictable result.
     
  10. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    ....and new LINEAR HW Champion of the World, Wladimir Klitschko :hi:
     
  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Linear, but not universally recognized or particularly legitimate, IMO.
     
  12. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    How sure are you that Chagaev will be backpeddaling the whole time? he was trying to get on the inside against valuev and threw bombs in that fight?

    He trained for a bigger man for this fight and im sure that he will try to utilize a knockout strategy as he has no chance winning on the scorecards against Wlad, and he knows it.

    On paper it looks like the Ibragimov fight, but something tells me that It will not be.
     
  13. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    i would say linear and universally recognized and legit since he would hold

    the WBA 'super', WBO, IBF + Ring Title.

    However, not undisputed since Vitali has the WBC. I don't think he would need to beat Valuev at all since Chagaev already beat him.

    I'm not sure if I would say undisputed if Vitali retires and the belt becomes vacant. Does Wlad need to win it to be undisputed in this circumstance? :think
     
  14. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sanders was an power punching southpaw, Chag is a southpaw boxer/technician. Wlad didn't have a problem with Thompson and Ibragimov who are southpaw boxers. Made for boring fights though...
     
  15. vonBanditos

    vonBanditos M΃derator Full Member

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    Would he be the WBA super champion? Chagaev himself is the 'champion in recess', not the super champion. To my knowledge the WBA hasn't stated how this will change things. They may strip him if he doesn't fight Valuev.