Chavez vs. Pacquiao prime for prime

Pacquiao's been in fire fights with all the greats.

Pacquiao brawls Chavez, he lasts 3 rounds.

He was lucky to get away with it, with Margarito

 

Margarito was more of a danger to Pac than Chavez would have been.

 

Yeah, Robinson was terrible at middleweight, at his peak. Only 40-0

And man, he'd do nothing after that. Just went on a long losing streak

Oh no, he didn't lose again for another 7 freaking years, and about another 70 freaking fight?!


Oh, but who did he really beat after that anyway?

Man, I started off thinking you knew what you were talking about.

You're just a Box-rec chancer, out of his depth

Ah, only Hank Armtrong, Kid Gavilan, Randy Turpin and Rocky Graziano

 

He was a ****ing WW vs Lamotta, idiot. He weighed 144 for the fight.

 

Haha, seriously, go home

You're just trolling

Take your Jake Lamotta point. Saying "he beat him at middleweight" so it didn't count.

Robinson's first ever loss. He wouldn't lose again for 7 years, and about 80 freaking fights

Would beat Turpin, Gavilan, Graziano in between

Man. I aint wasting time debating boxing with a dude going through Boxrec, talking gibberish

 

What's that got to do with it?

 

I won't stop talking about the greatest fighter ever losing until you quit pretending that a loss somehow makes a fighter completely worthless.

 

This entire thread is just a record of your stupidity.

 

The guy was underweight in probably 80% of his career fights

What he chose to come in as, was his own issue

 

How did this debate start

I claimed Lamotta was top 30 all time

You claimed James Toney was better

I explained why you're talking complete BS

 

James Toney ranks higher than Jake Lamotta

And that's the smartest thing you've come out with............

 

Scorcese should have made a movie about Toney instead

"Raging Cheeseburger" about his great battles with John Ruiz

 

I'll probably bid you adieu on that hall of fame joke

Been fun

 

By the way Roy Jones, 25 years time, will be rated higher than both Pacquiao and Mayweather

His record is far more sturdy to the rigours of 20 years of picking apart

 

1996-Pacquiao gets KO
1999-Pacquiao gets KO
2000-Pacquiao gets KD for more than 10 secs. vs Nedal Hussein
2001-Pacquiao gets gift draw against Agapito Sanchez
2004-Pacquiao gets gift draw vs Marquez after dropping him 3 times.
2005-Pacquiao loses to Morales who had just lost Barrera and then goes on to lose to a journey man Zahir Raheem.
2008-Pacquiao gets gift against Marquez.

Notable wins since 2000:

2003-Marco Antonio Barrera-Not in his physical prime
2006-Erik Morales (past his best Clearly) *Came down in weight
2008- David Diaz-Worst titlist, arguably had just lost to shot Morales
2008- Oscar De La Hoya-Shot, *Came down in weight
2009- Ricky Hatton-Previously gotten KTFO by feather fisted Mayweather
2009- Miguel Cotto- Previosuly gotten the snot beat out of him. Arguably not the same fighter. *Came down in weight.
2010- Antonio Margarito- Previously KTFO *Came down in weight

*Any true fight fan knows that when a fighter needs to put added focus on making weight, it distracts and takes away from actually preparing for the fight, not to mention the consequences that come from dehydration.

**Also, I find it interesting how some of Pac's biggest wins are vs fighters coming off devastating losses or getting KTFO.

***One should take into account everything Roach says regarding pac's opponents.

Just like Max Kellerman said last Saturday, Pac's career has been carefully orchestrated....something along those lines.

Everything I posted has been facts except for the gifts opinions.