Chris Algieri the new Sxy Sergio?

CST80 · Jun 20, 2014

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I am perfectly aware of this and understand the difference between race/ethnicity/nationality. They just don't seem to be pure white and their ancestors may have mixed with natives hence they could very well be mestizo.

My last name originated from Asturia/Galicia, my Great Grandparents on my dad's mom side came from Portugal, but my parents are Mexican and from my mothers side I have no knowledge of their specific origins past 2-3 generations. I am mestizo.

They could have European ancestry as I do but it may be generations back and Native/European admixture may have taken place all while retaining some of their Europeans genes and surname, hence not being pure white.
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Argentina has a very different genetic makeup from Mexico, Mexico is very mixed, almost everyone in Mexico possesses some indigenous blood. However Argentina's admixture levels are far below that of Mexico, its a possibility, but the levels in them is bordering on negligible.
BTW i have Galician on my mother's side as well.

spopovich · Jun 20, 2014

CST80 said: ↑

Yes mutations are random but they can also be influenced by factors in the environment. Do you really think the enviroment had nothing to do with the existence of the wooly mammoth and the excessive fur on animals in cold areas. I'm sure the environment had nothing to do with people living in tropical climates being able to tan better, its a mutation in their genotype that allows this. Why are people from Russia bulky they adapted to their environment. M1 mutation in Black people made their skin dark to accomodate the intense sun in Africa.

The very defintion of evolution is gradual adapting to the environment, I'm also trying to dumb things down and not be to obnoxious.

Lucas and Angulo maybe even Martinez may very well possess some indigenous blood, but I would also call that nitpicking. Spanish people are very diverse in their looks many people from Spain have alot of indigenous features which would be impossible since they don't have Native Americans in Spain.
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Actually yes. I do not think that the environmental factors played any role in the mutation of mammoth ancestors to develop fur. I do on the other hand believe that the mammoth ancestors who happened to develop fur due to random mutation were more likely to live to reproductive age in the cold environments. I'd wager that most if not all evolutionary biologists and geneticists would say the same.

As far as your point about Martinez, Matthysse, and Angulo go I can't disagree with you. Are they pure "white"? No. But the definition of the word "white" is up for debate and if you consider someone with some indigenous blood and some white blood white then your definition is certainly valid. Most peoples' definition of the word white has become more and more liberal over the years. There was a time when Italians were not considered white and now they are almost universally considered white.

The only thing I disagree with the is implication that South Americans who exhibits many Caucasian features are pure blooded Caucasian. It is highly unlikely that that is true. For example, Canelo Alvarez is as white in his features as you can get but there is no doubt that he has indigenous blood in him.

CST80 · Jun 20, 2014

spopovich said: ↑

Actually yes. I do not think that the environmental factors played any role in the mutation of mammoth ancestors to develop fur. I do on the other hand believe that the mammoth ancestors who happened to develop fur due to random mutation were more likely to live to reproductive age in the cold environments. I'd wager that most if not all evolutionary biologists and geneticists would say the same.

As far as your point about Martinez, Matthysse, and Angulo go I can't disagree with you. Are they pure "white"? No. But the definition of the word "white" is up for debate and if you consider someone with some indigenous blood and some white blood white then your definition is certainly valid. Most peoples' definition of the word white has become more and more liberal over the years. There was a time when Italians were not considered white and now they are almost universally considered white.

The only thing I disagree with the is implication that South Americans who exhibits many Caucasian features are pure blooded Caucasian. It is highly unlikely that that is true. For example, Canelo Alvarez is as white in his features as you can get but there is no doubt that he has indigenous blood in him.
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I get everything your saying, but just because something has not been proven to be true doesn't mean that its not true. Science has proven lately environmental changes have sped up evolution in some species in animals. Its a part of the theory of evolution that is up for debate, which I subscribe to, you don't, we can agree to disagree on that.

Think viruses evolve by adjustig to the antibiotics that is attempting to kill them, quite quickly in terms of evolution, that is evolving to adjust to something in their enviroment.

As far as South Americans go some are some aren't depends on the country and its racial makeup. Mexico Central America, Dom Rep, Puerto Rico, Colombia, Venezuela. Very diverse.
Argentina, Brazil in places, Uruguay, parts of Chile not so much, so its plausible that large chunks of those populations are without any interbreeding.

Similar in the U.S. we are very diverse, yet the vast majority is either White Black or Native American, depending on where you live determines how much mixed blood you have if any.

I'm from Florida and you have no idea how many people can look at a Cuban who is whiter than they are and think they are a different race because they are from Cuba, most people are not that bright when it comes to stuff like this.

Capitan · Jun 20, 2014

Wordup said: ↑

Now that you mention it, he is pretty sxy. But he's no sxy sergio.:-(

/swoon.
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"Now that you mention it..." WTH!!!
It was already on your mind...Damn ***gots!!!

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