Chris Byrd vs best version of old George Foreman

Denying that Briggs was athletic in the 90's pretty much invalidates everything you posted in this thread.

No it ins't. . There's been many posts in favour of Foreman and plenty of likes attached to those posts. . Speak for yourself.

 

That's like saying Butter bean has power though, Briggs landed plenty of punches on plenty of people and when those people had a world ranking he almost never knocked them out.

Briggs as a power puncher is smoke and mirrors.

 

Lmao

 

Explain to me why Briggs wasn't athletic and then give me an example of other athletic boxers at HW who weren't elite??

 

You said he's athletic and Byrd wasn't. Byrd is much fleeter of foot than Briggs.

I don't keep a list of athetic heavyweight boxers lol but maybe Malik Scott.

 

Not Chris Byrd, let's put it that way. (LOL)

Byrd should've had double digit losses on his record. He caught some amazing breaks. Questionable decisions against Oquendo, Golota, McCline and Williamson. Both Vitali and Holyfield tear their rotator cuffs? Both?

He was never on the receiving end of a questionable call. Never popped a drug test (when he shriveled back down to light heavy the moment he retired).

Got every break.

Hell, if Williamson all but outpointed him, George might win all 12 rounds and a lop-sided decision.

George didn't lose to light heavyweights.

 

Thats not what I said. . If you watch Briggs vs Foreman , you'll see Briggs was very reluctant to exchange with Foreman who was pushing 50. He knew it was too dangerous even against the oldest version of Foreman that ever entered the ring. You can sit there and claim Foreman wasn't dangerous but the guys he fought , particularly the WAY they fought him says otherwise.. You do NOT stand and trade with Foreman.

Biggs used his legs wisely , and while Byrd certainly had better legs than Briggs later in his career , Briggs of the 90's was far more athletic than any version of Byrd.

Im still waiting for you to explain how Briggs was not athletic??

 

EXACTLY!! To think a non-heavy with slow feet and feathers as fists could hold off Foreman is nothing but fantasy.

 

Foreman like Ibeabuchi who wasn't fast but he could destroy Byrd easily.Byrd was easy to hit by power punches and the old Foreman had power enough.

 

Of course he didn't want to exchange with Foreman,why would anyone want to trade shots with him?

Foreman only beat one ranked fighter in his entire comeback, he was dangerous, but he was there to be outboxed, by everyone he shared a ring with.

As I said before, if Morrison or Briggs decided to ride their bike against Foreman I see no reason for Byrd to not do the same.

Every boxer is an athlete. Briggs was not more athletic than Byrd. Briggs spent his career blasting out unranked opposition. Byrd spent his career having to slip, slide and evade punches from much bigger opponents.

The way I see this fight going, Foreman plods forward behind the slowest punches in heavyweight history. Byrd lands one or two punches and circles away. Over and over and over again.

Prime Foreman blasts Byrd out. Old Foreman does not.

I'm afraid you've been unable to convince me, but then again you never are. You couldn't convince me Wlad isn't a top 15 HW, you couldn't convince me Bowe didn't duck Lewis, and you can't convince me that Old Foreman beats Prime Byrd.

 

I think most of us, other than pathetic haters, would rate Wilder’s power highly. But he only knocked out one guy who was current top ten when they fought (Ortiz, 2 if Breazeale was in).

Bowe is thought to have had pretty good power. I don’t think he knocked out anyone in the top ten other than Holyfield due to fatigue and maybe Jorge Luis Gonzalez.

Ruddock? Only Dokes.

The reality is that few heavyweights even fight a lot of top ten opponents unless they’re long reigning champions.

Briggs is the record holder for first round knockouts and had power. The end.

 

If you extend out to guys who aren't currently ranked Briggs total goes from 1,to 2. That's when we include Mercer as well as Lyakhovic.

Bowe isn't considered a legendary power puncher. He's considered a beast of an in fighter and durable as hell.

It isn't the end. He has the record for first round knockouts because no one else would spend so long blasting out club fighters. That's what Briggs power is, enough to blast out club fighters.

Briggs is not a world class power puncher and his record against ranked opposition proves this.

 

Don't play stupid.. Athleticism is an attribute some have and others don't. His opponents have no baring at all when it comes to athleticism. I want you to actually explain how he wasn't athletic but you can't can you? Of course you can't , because Briggs back then was explosive , dynamic and extremely quick. Only a moron would say Briggs did not have any athleticism.

As far as I know Tua was the only ranked guy Byrd beat.. Oquendo and Golota might have been ranked but you dismissed that Byrd because you know if he couldn't beat a washed up Golota , he wouldn't be able to beat a Foreman.

And thats the size of it , Byrd struggled to beat poor versions of Williamson , Oqundo , McCline and Golota.. All guys Foreman would have blown away.

And when Byrd lost to the best guys he fought , guys with jabs and uppercuts , he didn't just lose , he got completely and utterly dominated. Foreman lost to one all time great at the peak of his powers and the other loss came to guy with speed and the power to sleep a horse. I already said that Byrd could beat a Foreman pushing 50.
As for what you think about me , i couldn't care less. Telling me those things just underlines your insecurity.

 

Every boxer is a pro athlete. The idea that Briggs is more of an athlete than Byrd is one I'm not buying into, hence why I said I'll leave it there.

You brought up Golota, I said I'm talking about a prime Byrd, that's what the thread is about right, a prime Byrd vs an old Foreman.

I don't get this whole thing about you know and deep down you believe. If I thought Old Foreman beats Prime Byrd I would just say so. I much prefer Foreman as a boxer to Byrd. I would have no reason to deny something I believed and its pretty weird of you to suggest it.

As I've already said:

The way I see this fight going, Foreman plods forward behind the slowest punches in heavyweight history. Byrd lands one or two punches and circles away. Over and over and over again.

Prime Foreman blasts Byrd out. Old Foreman does not.

 

Don't be moron. Foreman did not have the slowest punches in HW history. . The commentators in the Cooney fight were surprised at how quick he was. What do you see that they couldn't??
You can clearly see his jab was quick and snappy. Larry Merchant said - if he's so slow , how come nobody can get out of the way.

Mike Tyson called him a wolf in sheeps clothing and apparently wanted no part of him. Foreman would have given Riddick Bowe hell , never mind Chris Byrd.

Holyfield thought all his teeth had been knocked out after the second round. He fought a careful defensive fight. He would have been a fool to think Foreman didn't have the speed to catch him.

Foreman would throw Byrd around the ring and do whatever he wanted to him. Byrds slaps would be like a fly hitting a wind screen. Foreman would just plough through Byrd with sheer power and brute force and there would be nothing he could do to stop him.