Classic Forums Thoughts on Pac-DLH

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Seamus, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    To put it blunty, when it comes to De La Hoya......You don't have a clue what you're talking about with the above.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    You are talking to the guy (and kudo's to others who picked Paq) that humbly walked away with this thread. How would it have went down if he quoted your wrong pick and told you that you had no clue what you were talking about per this? I shudder to think.

    It might be time to realise that many of the rest of us have a very hard time understanding a lot of what you type. Instead of considering the majority is taking you wrong 100% of the time it might be high time to ponder if you yourself might have a little to do with it.

    :hey
     
  3. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    My wrong prediction has already been picked upon. Go back and see, that was clearly sorted out as i replied on it. It's was a guess and I had reasoning behind it, I got it wrong. Many others got it wrong as well. "I shudder to think" what exactly? I have thick skin and certainly would have had the balls to hold my hands up and admit I got it wrong if challenged.

    You needed to stick your nose in, to no surprise. Hard to understand what I type? I have clearly stated above my thoughts on De La Hoya's style above, which Stonehands said was never "fluid and loose" at any point in his career. Did you have difficulty understanding it? :lol: Surely not.

    One thing I certainly found difficult to understand recently was when you said Calzaghe was well past his prime when he fought Jones. When I picked upon that nonsense, I noticed you swerved away from it and said "you don't awnser my questions, so I won't yours" or something similar. Weeks prior, I never awnsered your question, rightly so, after you complained like a school kid as to why I never gave my prediction on the opening post of the thread. It really bothered you. I guess thats a little grudge you still have towards me.

    And who's the rest of us?. Just you, and sometimes Stonehands. Not the majority. You're certainly over-exaggerating with that one JT. To an absurd degree.
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    We have picked each other up wrong in the past. I don't have a problem with you at all JT. Some others might well be offended by the above being presented to them. I find it humorous.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Can't say i didn't try. Some others can't be offended because i stated "many of the rest of us", not all.

    As for sticking my nose in, well pot, kettle, black etc.

    You've entirely missed my point, but that's just unfortunate. You might ask for a new pair of shoes for Xmas.
     
  6. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    *whistles*
     
  7. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I never said that you said "all" you said "majority is taking you wrong 100% of the time". I disagreed with it and fully covered it.

    Entirely missed your point? I've addressed it in two parts. You're a comedian mate.

    "You are talking to the guy (and kudo's to others who picked Paq) that humbly walked away with this thread. How would it have went down if he quoted your wrong pick and told you that you had no clue what you were talking about per this? I shudder to think.

    It might be time to realise that many of the rest of us have a very hard time understanding a lot of what you type. Instead of considering the majority is taking you wrong 100% of the time it might be high time to ponder if you yourself might have a little to do with it"

    All the highlighted areas covered.



    I understand what you have typed.:lol:
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    :yikes The Toffee whistler.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Took you an hour to think of that I see. :yep
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Yeah, I sure did. My last hour was put soley into that. Got a notepad here with all the names scribbled down. That was the best I could come up with. :lol:
     
  11. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Imagine if De La Hoya won and StoneHands said: "I knew the size difference would be too much" and then referred to this (in his prediction post).



    See Robbi's prediction/follow up for further details. :lol:
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This ****ing thread is really confusing me.
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Before the fight............

    "I'm rooting for De La Hoya against Pacquaio. Excluding Pacman's southpaw stance and quick hands, De La Hoya has a history of eating up smaller aggressive fighters. He hates having to play the role of the aggressor. Whitaker, Mosley I, Hopkins, and Mayweather were all fights where De La Hoya had to march forward. Even the smaller Forbes' style wasn't exactly made to order for him.

    Pacquaio's speed and southpaw stance will be the main problems for De La Hoya. Pacquiao's high workrate might well be his downfall rather than work to his advantage. It depends how he takes De La Hoya's punches. He's going to get hit in this fight as his defense is anything but bombproof, although it has improved recently.

    IMO, De La Hoya's speed is being seriously underrated going into this fight. It wouldn't suprise me if the speed advantage Pacquaio has is very slight.


    De La Hoya inside 6 rounds"


    After the fight.........


    "De La Hoya is finished. I knew the speed of Pacquaio would give him problems, and the southpaw stance. De La Hoya's never had a right hand, and thats what he needed tonight to have any kind of success. He just couldn't land the left hook at all. Pacman fought a very disciplined fight throughout. He turned De La Hoya all night, peppered him, even at times backing him up into a defensive shell.

    De La Hoya looked and perfomed like a shot fighter. And he was robotic as he's ever been tonight."


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    De La Hoya is finished. I knew the speed of Pacquaio would give him problems, and the southpaw stance.


    Conteh- Typical. You're acting like you got the prediction right. :lol:


    Then I say..........


    "I simply said I knew Pacquaio's southpaw stance and speed would give De La Hoya problems in my prediction. And I was right on that. Typical? What you on about? Once you had a go at me for not giving a solid prediction once because I sat on the fence. I have no history for giving a prediction then changing my tune afterwards.

    I'm not acting like I got the prediction right. :good
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    After the fight...



    Before the fight...


    This is internationally known as 'hedging your bets". :hey
     
  15. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Hey guys.

    I'm not as smart as you guys, especially when it comes to boxing techniques and stuff.

    But do you guys think that one of the ODLH training camp's bigger mistakes was sparring and practicing against smaller lefty sluggers?

    I saw a bit of that on the HBO 24/7 show. Most of Oscar's sparmates were those stocky little pitbull types, with wide, swinging punches and fighting right in front of Oscar.

    But Pacquiao kinda surprised them by boxing, instead of slugging.

    Throwing a laser lead left hand, right down the middle. The slowmos' showed how straight he threw those shots, as he was slipping/pivoting away to his right, in one fluid motion.

    It shouldnt be a secret, though, because Pacquiao has been using that for at least 2-3 years now. Nacho would have known that.

    It was weird to see Oscar get hit by that punch, all night long. It was like he coudnt see it coming, like he had been training to watch out for roundhouse lefts, or overhand lefts or something.

    :think