Colin Jones v Antonio Margarito

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Decy, Nov 7, 2009.


  1. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    An unbiased and objective person wouldn't think so, but others here clearly do.

    You'll find people who are nostalgic about every stretch of history. 10-20 years from now, you'll be hearing people say, "Cotto or Clottey would've whupped that guy..."
     
  2. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know, i was just fooling around.

    Jones should be able to beat Margarito on merit and styles alone though dpesite his own glaring flaws, he's one of the best B level pure punchers of recent decades at the weight, along with Jose Luis Lopez. marching straight in with no skill throwing widely telegraphed punches and taking punches flush is not a good idea against guys like that.It's not ridiculous for anyone to think he'd do well against a lot of recent top ten/champion Welters, which says at least as much about the srength of the division recently as it does him of course.

    Cotto, Mayorga, Spinks, old Mosley Judah etc...are on a roughyl similar level to them and the McCrory's, blockers, Brelands of the eighties imo.None of them special or complete.
     
  3. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    wow. im amazed by the answers.

    jones though a fantastic puncher, solid chin and a hard jab had little else. a wide stance that cemented him to the ground, low workrate. i think a guy like margo would cramp his style and put him onto the backfoot.

    margo was stopped by mosley. but not after getting beaten to the punch and taken apart. i dont think jones has the speed or technique/technical approach to destroy him and in that doesnt have his space to let loose.

    margo ud or late stoppage
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Good post ,you summed him up well,I saw a lot of his fights from ringside ,he was a slow puncher ,with very heavy hands ,but never busy enough at top level.
    Kirkland Laing made him look pedestrian twice, before , taking his eye off the ball and being kod both times.
    I would give Colin a very live chance against Margarito.
     
  5. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd agree that if Margarito beats him it'll be because was able to consistently back him up.

    BUt i thnk he'll get hit plenty on the way in and that heavy jab will keep margo off balance enough to allow the welshman to unload.he also generally throws shorter,better quality punches and has a good tight guard, which while easily penetrable by a sharpshooter, would work well against the clubbing telegraphed bombs Margo throws.I'd expect Margo to get worn down in half the time it took mosley if he's eating a decent amount of shots per round.unless Jones turns out to have a below average beard, which didn't seem to be the case despite an early knockdown against McCrory, then the cheat ain't winning a war of attrition against basically a Khaosai Glaxy/Moon level banger.

    Not nostalgia here, just a firm believe a lot of the recent champs weren't that special.Hell, if the cheat had a decent defence or actually threw proper punches i'd probably pick him here.
     
  6. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McCrory was a tough style to overcome for a puncher of JOnes limitations.height, reach, fought safety first with a ton of movement once he tasted the power etc, ,yet the welshman had him doing an Ali impression and fighting scared as hell after landing barely a fraction of the shots Milt took blow for blow against a really good junior middle hitter like McCallum...Guys like Shields, Flea Richardson and the like were able to execute similar strategies and do well going the distance with other more succesful punchers like Cuevas and Moon.I tend to thnk the Milt fights proved he was at roughly that level of effectivness as a puncher,probably just a notch below.

    Curry of course was just too talented to lose to a methodical textbook plodder.