Colleen Alcock's Reporting of the First Dempsey Tunney fight

In boxing written Colleen Alcock's book on Tex Rickard she gives a very different description of the first Dempsey Tunney bout, ripping the long standing count that Tunney dominated and won every round convincingly .. according to Colleen, Dempsey, who entered the ring clearly sick, fought competitively in the early rounds, actually hurt Tunney in the fourth and eight and while ultimately faded and lost , he did not take the one sided beating that is so often repeated by route .. she also makes references to the films clearly supporting this .. my question .. what rounds of Dempsey Tunney exist in their entirety ? Is there truth to this ?

 

Dempsey lost 9 of 10 rounds. Tunney is looking at the ref at the count of four during the long count.

 

Its the first fight being discussed!lol
In their second fight Tunney on the canvas, looks in the referees direction at the count of three, he then looks away and isn't watching him toll off the count on his fingers at all.

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I haven't read her work, but her book on Joe Gans got decidedly mixed reviews.

 

"On the morning of the fight, Mike Trent, one of Dempsey's bodyguards, gave the champion a small glass of olive oil, a habit meant to aid digestion. Dempsey suffered something akin to food poisoning. Rumors spread that gamblers had paid Trent to put something in Dempsey's olive oil, but nothing was substantiated. Many believed racketeer Arnold Rothstein was behind it. Rothstein, who was ringside for the fight, bet $125,000 at 4 to 1 odds that Tunney would win ."This was mentioned in Dempsey's first auto biography.

 

I am simply curious what film she was referring to ? How many actual full rounds of the first fight exist ?

 

Tunney had better skills. But if the rematch was in Dempsey's prime there is no doubt Tunnel would not have survive the knockdown. No doubt what so ever.

 

Klompton might know.

 

Tunney looks at the ref at the for a bit longer than the count of three ( Did you watch the video ) , and clearly hears him well enough to get up when needed. And when he gets up, he's got his legs, a sign that he wasn't that hurt. Stunned and floored yes, but mentally and physically capable of getting up when he had to.

 

Judging by his past posts he's not a big fan of either Dempsey or Tunney.

I'm pretty sure round 7 can not be seen today due to film damage over the years. This leaves 24 minutes of the other nine rounds, the majority of which can be seen today. Round 8 is rare. The late Tony Fosco had it. Last I heard his wife wants to sell the entire colleciton for $250,000.00 and won't give out anything via piecemeal.

 

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Fight is certainly competitive early. At times Tunney appears not to be able to handle the charging Dempsey.

 

All of the rounds exist including round 7, which was filmed in slow motion for the theatrical release. rounds 7 and 8 have bad hypo damage but are still watchable. Tunney won a wide, easy decision. Aycock is completely mistaken. Dempsey was battered in the fight. His face was bruised, bloody, and swollen with multiple cuts around his eyes.

 

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While your on, what do you make of Larry Gains story of the training camp where he sparred Dempsey ahead of the Tunney fight?

 

refresh my memory, what story?