Common misconception about Floyd not fighting in rhythm........

Example for Gooners:

These two guys are well-known Mayweather fans, and yet when they discuss this fight they are not constantly preaching to everyone that Pacquiao has categorically no chance of winning, they are very open to discussing the possibilities that lie ahead. You are not. All you do is try to state with certainty in every sentence that Pacquiao cannot win. Read these two posts, you may understand the difference between their objectivity and your pointless preaching.

 

This is basically why I'm seeing it as more of a 50-50 now, he'll 34-35, inactive, plus he's reluctant. Reluctance doesn't always mean a fighter won't win a fight, Joe Calzaghe was actually reluctant to face Jeff Lacy and we saw what happened there

Plus Floyd doesn't fight at an incredibly fast pace anyway, he can be outworked if he doesn't assert his authority on his opponent, he also sometimes makes the mistake of waiting for an opponent to stop punching to start punching himself. Its a ropa-dope strategy that sees your opponent more tired when you come to land your punches, which tends to make your punches more accurate and hurt your opponent more because hes tired. Against a workhorse though that could see him outworked

BTW thanks for the info the other day, lets hope they pull their finger out :good

 

Everybody has bias. It is naive to suggest otherwise.

Even the most objective of writers have bias. It is human nature, and it is built from your life experiences and personal beliefs. No avoiding personal bias, we all have it.

 

You can debate as long as Pacquiao is regarded as the GOAT. Anything that suggests Pacquiao isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread will get you flamed. :deal

Seriously, you could go around and be a Manny joyboy for a week, and 100 posters would jump on your jock about "how right you are." LOL, it's pathetic. Manny Pacquiao is considered "untouchable" by his fans. Can't even have a debate about boxing styles without it turning into a "Love my Manny" fest.

I've watched Pacquiao for most of his career, and let me say this: I've never wanted the man to lose a fight. Now? Not so much, and it has nothing to do with Pacquiao, and everything to do with the million bandwagon fans.

 

Mosley and Hatton thought so too, Thats just not going to work unles your 154pounds at the weigh in.

 

I'm not too fussed over what you think man. To me, bias = irrationality, and as far as I can know, I am not irrational. I dislike Floyd Mayweather's public persona, but that does not blind me to his skills, I am well aware of his abilities and I have never wrote him off in any way. I believe Pac vs Floyd is a very, very interesting fight, which is why I bristle when some dullard is on here every day going on and on and on about how it's a non-event and that one guy does not have a snowball's chance.

 

Yawn. All major fighters have these sections of fans, Pacquiao is no different to Mayweather, Calzaghe or Wlad in that respect.

 

When someone continually preaches the same thing over and over and over with absolute certainty, you lose credibility and objectivity and become no more than a cheerleader, which is what you have become.

As I said above...

Example for Gooners:

These two guys are well-known Mayweather fans, and yet when they discuss this fight they are not constantly preaching to everyone that Pacquiao has categorically no chance of winning, they are very open to discussing the possibilities that lie ahead. You are not. All you do is try to state with certainty in every sentence that Pacquiao cannot win. Read these two posts, you may understand the difference between their objectivity and your pointless preaching.

 

It's different because Pacquiao has by far the most "bandwagon" fans who don't know a damn thing about boxing.

You can see the attitude on this forum: If you are "pro-Pacquiao" then people consider that a "you know what you are talking about." If you think "Pacquiao can be beat," then you don't know anything and you are flamed. It's pathetic. What people "perceive you know about boxing" is completely based on your support for Manny Pacquiao. LOL

Also, any positive comments about Mayweather is generally met with Pacquiao-fan venom as well.

I used to think Mayweather joyboys were bad, until the ******* came around. Just like Miguel Cotto, it has made me want to see Pacquiao lose now. Not because I dislike the fighter, but because the fans are annoying to no end.

 

So you have picked one side which you dislike more. Good for you, even if that undermines the points you are trying to make here.

 

Actually, I dislike joyboy fans of all fighters, but there are far more Pacquiao joyboys, than there are of anybody else. It ruins good boxing debate in my opinion and creates a close-minded approach to analyzing fights with your fellow fans.

Like I said: I could post for a month with a new name about how great Pacquiao is, and I'd have 100 posters on my jock about "how right I am" and how "I know so much about boxing" even if I was talking completely out of my ass. That to me, is disgusting and everything wrong with this blind devotion of some of these *******s.

Like I said: I never wanted Pacquiao to lose a fight until recently. Not because of anything Manny has done, but because all these bandwagon fans who were nowhere to be found years ago showing up and talking all this trash. Where were all these people when he was at Featherweight? Exactly....

 

Yawn. As if there isn't someone elsewhere on this forum making the exact same point about '*****s'... :dead Infantile.

 

What I find funny is that this "POPKINS" is on this thread commenting on what others say but hasn't once stated his case on who he believes will win and why. He keeps saying he has seen GOONERS write the same type of thread, well if your tired of it why do you keep popping up. I am sure there are many other threads from Pac fans that you would love out there. Go find them.

And yes I think Floyd would win a UD or SD against Manny. He has too many tools. Last time Manny fought anyone with a great counter punching style was 3 years ago when he faced Marquez. And we know how that turned out. He may be a different fighter now but until we see him against this type of fighter again, I think that is his krytonite.

Imagine that. No hateful remarks toward anyone at all. Just an honest opinion from a BOXING fan.

 

I have no problem with anyone who thinks Floyd will win. It's a very close fight, of course many highly knowledgable boxing fans are going to think he will win. I have a problem with people who seem to spend an inordinate amount of time and effort into completely writing off one fighter's chances, incessantly reinforcing how the fight is a non-event, how it's an impossibility that the fight could end in a Pac win, etc etc. Gooners is not open to discussion at all, all he does is make threads to push his own agenda down peoples' throats.

I believe Pacquiao will win the fight on points. In front of the world's media and in the biggest fight in history, Floyd's ego will not allow him to risk getting the spaghetti legs which he suffered vs Mosley and Corley, so I expect him to fight extremely cautiously and defensively, but I don't believe he (at 33 or 34, whenever the fight happens) has the legs to do so vs someone as fast and relentless as Pacquiao. Floyd's own negative, safety-first mentality will defeat him, because he will shell up and throw one shot at a time, and get outworked, outpunched and outfought. :good

But I would not be surprised if Floyd managed to use his boxing skills to get a UD, because I don't view this fight as a non-event.