** Common Opponents Facts ....PBF ...Cotto...**

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  1. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    accidental, Frauds forearms are on purpose.
     
  2. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    how come cotto didn't go toe to toe with mosley for the lat four rounds. why was he running from an old man:deal
     
  3. sambob

    sambob Active Member Full Member

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    What the ****? Floyd Mayweather fights to win. IF he can win toe to toe with es itan opponent, without taking too much damage, he does it !!
     
  4. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    I will sayt that PBF has far more ring savines that many give him credit fore, that Judah lost it on the 10th in similar fashion that Tyson did against Holy, becuase Holy fouled constantly with his head and PBF with his elbows....it is a fact..I would not be surprize if Cotto fight PBF he start and lay the law that he will not be taking any bull **** from PBF...in similar fashion he did with Judah...
     
  5. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    First:

    Cotto is far more versatile than Hatton will ever be. He can jab and he can brawl, he can counter and he will destroy you body far more visicious than Hatton...

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    Cotto is far bigger than Hatton, who me for instance, was under the impression that Hatton would be the bigger man, that was never the case. With Cotto there is no doubt that he is the bigest and stronger man...

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    Cotto is one of the best cutting the ring, and it was shown on the Hatton fight, that PBF could be cornered..Hatton unfortunately was not efficinet on the corner....
     
  6. MARVELOUS

    MARVELOUS New Member Full Member

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    Cotto is just a bigger puncher than PBF and approaches fights differently
     
  7. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    I am not disagreeying, infact I am agreeing, all I am saying is that PBF does cheat as much as any other boxer, heis very ring savy and te over reaction of weak minded Judah was a clear fruistration of PBF elbows..if you remember Baldo did try to hit PBF low after repeaded elbows....
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Si its wrong for Mayweather to counter all fight but okay for Cotto?
     
  9. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    PBF has turn into a single punch hitter while in the center of the ring on the early rounds, unless he has the opening or the opponent is coming down Main Street like Hatton did, and even on those occassions only a straight right from PBF hit flush...with Cotto it will far more difficult, far better boxer than Hatton, understand boxoing far better is far more methodical than Hatton ever will..I will say this Cotto is a master counter puncher also..it will boiled down on who will counter who....
     
  10. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For you to say Cotto is "FAR" more verstile than Hatton shows a little bit about your stance on behalf of Cotto. I won't say you don't know boxing b/c you do, but you do have clouded judgement when you have a preferential fighter you are discussing. I'd say Cotto is a better boxer but not by much and I'd say Cotto is LESS of a body puncher than Hatton is.

    Cotto isn't as viscious going to the body than Hatton b/c Cotto has other options, but their styles are VERY similar. I will agree that Cotto is bigger...stronger is anther question and still left to be determined. It wasn't like he was having trouble moving and pushing Floyd around...he just was eating alot of leather all the while Hatton was trying to bully Floyd around the ring.

    Floyd for the most part "CORNERS himself"! If Floyd doesn't want to be cornered he won't, sometimes he wants to change his game plan up and in order to do that he switches the landscape. He'll be fighting you in the middle of the ring one second and the other sec seems to be trapped in the corner countering off of his opponents offensive arsenal.
     
  11. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Please!! Zab hit floyd low to keep himself from getting koed, not because floyd was using elbows.
    both fighter like to fight from outside and because this there hardly any clinches if any the whole fight for floyd to resort to using elbows, so let's not rumors of zab cheated becuase floyd used elbows, zab cheated because he about to get stopped.
     
  12. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    I will have to disagree with you regarding Cotto and Hatton body attack...their approach to the body is totally different, while Hatton relies on relentless pressure, Cotto reliesx on effctive pressure and execution, he just doesn;t thru the high volume Hatton does, but his punches are as devasting, if not more , than Hatton why? you may ask..simple, accuracy Cotto sacrifice volume for accuracy...and is for that reason he usually mulled his opponent to the pulp, they are physically hurt, while Cotto overwhelms you with his attach, the two are very effcicient and succesful with their approach..but from the pure boxing stand point, I stand by my c0mment that Cotto is far more skilled and versatile than Hatton is at this point on his career...if you want me to go into details..I be mroe than glad
     
  13. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Zab cheated becuase he can;t help himself...he did it against Baldomir also....
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see your point and I do agree there are slight differences regarding the kind of pressue That Hatton and Cotto implement. Cotto is more composed and calm. He looks for opening and sets them up more...on the other hand Hatton is more of a mauling relentless pressure...he hits your arms, shoulders and anything else that is in the way. I think that Cotto may be a bit more effective agaisnt certain styles where as Hatton may have better success agaisnt boxers or slick fighters. It depends on who they fight and what game plan they have. For Floyd I think Hatton's style would be more effective b/c it dosen't give much room to think or breath...If you give Floyd the chance to pick his spots and think in the ring he will be even more accurate and devastating. Not to say if Hatton and Cotto met that Cotto would have the better style and beat him. But you make some very good observations about the differences in their pressure style of boxing.
     
  15. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    I appreciatted you candit copmment, and it is to show you that many people on ESB simply miss the boat when it comes to analysing the boxers styles...