Comparing Calzaghe and Hopkins

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by trampie, Jan 12, 2011.


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  1. moreorless

    moreorless Active Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately a combination of nationalism and anglophobia drive the opinions of a sizeble number of americans who post here so that will never happen.
     
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    When you look at Hopkins resume often made up of fighters coming up, it seems to me Hopkins fought alot of recognised names to America, but didnt fight as tough a competition as Calzaghe.

    Calzaghes resume is better, just like Erdeis is better than Dawsons but not as recognised
     
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  3. pacpowerpellet

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    FACT Calzaghe landed more slaps then any fighters on hopkins FACT
     
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  4. horst

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    This is the post of a true maniac. :lol: Christ knows what you are on.

    Especially - why make that comment about the Germans losing the war to me?! :nut I'm not German. Why do you think I am?

    And even if I was, what sort of thing is that to say?!!!! :huh
     
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  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bums and old men, that´s all Joe C. ever fought. :deal
     
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  6. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because outside of Joe Calzaghe the only thing he can think about is me. :hey
     
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  7. guga

    guga New Member Full Member

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    i made this comparison a while ago of the 3 modern greats. ottke, calzaghe and hopkins.


    rankings by ring magazine.

    calzaghe 8 out of 21 title defenses against top 10 ranked opponents
    ottke 9 out of 21 title defenses against top 10 ranked opponents
    hopkins 16 out of 20 title defenses against top 10 ranked opponents

    calzaghe 9 out of 22 title fights(at super-middle) against top 10 ranked opponents
    ottke 10 out of 22 title fights(at super-middle) against top 10 ranked opponents
    hopkins 20 out of 24 title fights(at middle-weight) against top 10 ranked opponents

    calzaghe 12 total fights against guys ranked in the top 10(all divisions)
    ottke 12 total fights against guys ranked in the top 10(all divisions)
    hopkins 26 total fights against guys ranked in the top 10(all divisions)

    calzaghe 2 controversial wins that could be losses
    ottke at least 5(haven't seen all of his fights) controversial wins that could be losses
    hopkins 0 wins that could be losses but 4 controversial losses that could be wins or draws
     
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  8. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ring magazine is American.
    Hopkins is American.
    Ring magazine ranks Americans highly to help sell their rag.
    Ring magazine fabricated records of boxers, to elevate them.
    Ring magazine promoted Americans up the rankings to try and stop non Americans from holding all the world titles and getting title shots.
     
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  9. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Comparing Calzaghe and Hopkins

    No...tired of this...:tired
     
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  10. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe fought only bums and old men though. :hi:
     
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  11. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sorry friend but you're seeing what you want to see and nothing more.
    i've covered this countless times and i really don't want to have too again.
     
    HoldMyBeer, Jan 12, 2011
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  12. horst

    horst Guest

    I think The Ring's current position on who the p4p#1 is and who the p4p#2 is kind of shoots your theory down, no?
     
    horst, Jan 12, 2011
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  13. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree.
    Upto championship level when Hopkins lost to Roy Jones and Calzaghe beat Eubank, they had fought virtually the same amount of fights with Calzaghe's combined opponents having a better win/loss record than Hopkins, also Calzaghe stopped virtually everyone of them, Hopkins didnt, infact Hopkins even lost to a bum on his debut, amongst Calzaghe's early victims was the highly regarded Mark Delaney.
     
    trampie, Jan 12, 2011
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  14. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  15. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you know, i'm in hopkins' corner with this 'argument' and i always have been.
    but this is exactly not the way to justify anything.

    in a sport ruled by bull**** you can't have it both ways and criticise the way the sport is run and then justify any fighter's career using the people who **** it up in the first place.

    that's all you've done here.
     
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