Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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  2. YCGS

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    I'm not convinced Beterbiev beats most of Roy's best wins to be honest. Certainly not easily.
    I think he possibly loses to Toney, Tarver, Hill, Bhop just to name a few. Beterbiev doesn't even fight twice a year and has TWO good wins on his entire resume. Bivol, Gvoz and then a string of guys no one will ever remember. Maybe Joe for the Bhop fight... that's about it.
    Bivol is a top LHW and that was a great fight I want to see run back, but he doesn't compare to prime Roy. He could have for sure, but way too inactive and has only 1 signature win.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I'm just saying I think Hill is getting disrespected in this thread in general he was a very solid champion and atleast on par with Bivol I mean has Bivol really proven he's better than Hill ? There's no one on Bivol's resume that I wouldn't favour Hill to beat Canelo at Light Heavyweight included.

    Beterbiev has two good wins Bivol highly controversial decision and Gvodsyk who was ahead on points at the time of the stoppage. Beterbiev is a fine champion but I think people need to look at the context of his whole career before making outlandish predictions regarding mythical match ups.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I think your avoidance of actually stating who he beat in favor of a bunch of numbers for a reason. He was basically Gvodyzk with better longevity.
     
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  5. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

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    I wouldn't even rank Gvozdyk above a guy like Julio Cesar Gonzalez, let alone Hill.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You weren’t watching boxing when Gonzalez was around. The Leterlough fight tells you what you need to know.
     
  7. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What do the DM and Glen Johnson fights have to tell ?
     
  8. NoNeck

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    Old guy and a part time fighter.
     
  9. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

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    Just like Adonis Stevenson, then.
     
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  10. CooperKupp

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    Where’s the proof or even some evidence of that? There’s WAY more suspicion of ‘B-Hop’ juicing in his 40’s than Beterbiev. ROID Roy Jones suspicious activity is well known.

    Beterbiev is just a phenom and his drive and discipline is different than 90% of boxers. Also trains and is good friends with The GOAT MMA fighter GSP. Iron sharpens Iron. :chuck:

    There’s only one fighter with a spirit and drive on par with Beterbiev and that’s the sports #1 PFP fighter Usyk. ;)
     
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  11. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Toney and bhop were not at LHW, how many times does that need to be said? And roy is 1 - 2 against tarver, who would always clean his clock. In fact I think tarver would have a better chance against AB than roy. Look at roys actual resume at LHW
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Stevenson had less wear and tear, but was also old. My point has gone completely over your head if you think this is about comparing resumes. Gvozdyk was around Hill's level at his peak, but he announced his retirement after fighting Beterbiev and that was the end of anything meaningful for his resume. He was better than Gonzalez for anyone who was watching boxing back then.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Based on what ? Gvozdyk's best win is a 40+ year old Stevenson that's his only notable win.

    Where do you get these random thoughts from ? Gvozdyk made a grant total of 1 title defence my guy.

    You're criticising RJJ's resume when it's 10x times better than Gvozdyk's resume who's only notable win is against a 41 year old.

    Do you even know what you're talking about ? Or do you just spout any random nonsense that comes into your head ?
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Except Hill overcame his 1st loss and went on to win 10 more world title fights.

    Gvodyzk after his 1st loss retired and did nothing of note in his comeback.

    So no I wouldn't say they're anything alike one fighter made 20 title defences the other one made a grant total of 1 title defence.

    I'm not avoiding names Hill beat Maske, Tate, Del Valle, Thadzi = beat James Toney, Tiozzo, Czyz, Stewart = coming off beating Marvin Johnson.

    Not a great resume but neither has Bivol take away the Canelo win the list of names on Bivol's resume are not really stand out names.

    And Gvodyzk's claim to fame is beating a 41 year old Adonis Stevenson and making 1 title defence.

    Fighters like Maske was a long reigning Light Heavyweight Champion when Hill gave him his first loss.
     
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