Comparing the master boxing heavyweights from Corbett to Holmes

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Are you aware that Geroge Godfrey would not fight Tunney? The papers make reference to this.

    Are you aware Tunney record vs hall of fame fighter is something like 10-1? I think that is fine competition.

    Are you aware Charles and Patterson also fought much smaller men, who for the most part were the same size as Tunney?


    Tunney fought Demspey twice, he was the best puncher of the era.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Tho i've lost the article Tunney did indeed move boxing forward technically.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also, Ali fought many guys who were were within the heavyweight limit but who were much smaller with decided disadvantages in height and reach.
     
  4. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    The article is right there on film. :good
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Fair call, and when i stumble back upon it it will be right here on ESB :yep
     
  6. SuzieQ49

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    otherway around. tunney would not fight godfrey. tunneys management ducked godfrey, they wanted no part of him. Historian Kevin Smith was kind enough to send me newspaper articles confirming this.



    10-1 is misleading......most of those wins are over past there prime greats, or against much smaller fighters than tunney.



    Tunney never fought a man over 200lb, never fought a black fighter......never fought a great fighter near their prime outside of harry greb who beat tunney twice despite being outweighed by at least 15lb.


    On film. patterson, charles, walcott appear to me as the better boxers than tunney.
     
  7. janitor

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    I am not convinced that Tunney was a turning point in terms of technique.

    I have seen contemporary articles describing Jem Mace, Jim Corbett and Terry McGovern as having turned a corner in technique but not Tunney.

    Jack McAuliffe said that Gene Tunney was better than Jim Corbett but only because he was more powerfull and durable while posessing similar tools.
     
  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Corbett was ahead of his time, too. I don't know about Mace but i'll take your word on that one. It's just that i see fighters from the early 30's on use combinations, high guard, jabbing etc, while a lot of fighters before that (with a few exceptions, say Tunney, Dempsey and a few others) did not do that. I'm talking about heavyweights, by the way.