CompuBox?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Wass1985, Sep 17, 2018.

  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Yes, yes, and yes. Unless it's a jab to the body, it's a power punch.
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Find one who scored it the way you did.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Go search Twitter using 117-111 GGG, there's shitloads of people that scored it like that, one guy even said he feels like Byrd.:lol:
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A fanboi? He IS a Byrd. As is your card.

    Look, CST, you know boxing. I’ve read enough of your posts.

    Are you seriously posting compubox stats (which are not even necessarily accurate, it’s someone at ringside punching a button every time he sees a punch land, not a 3D view so if the boxer’s back is to it and he punches then he’s just speculating) and saying whoever lands the most wins the round?

    Is that how pro boxing is scored? No, and you know it isn’t.
     
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  5. GlassJoe

    GlassJoe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    There is simply no way to score the match 115-113 to Canelo. 8-4 GGG, 7-5 GGG feasible as well, very difficult to imagine a draw, and 115-113 is fairly close to absurdity.

    He outlanded Canelo in 8 of 12 rounds, threw almost 260 more total punches, landed 70 power shots in rounds 6-12, landed 60 more jabs, outboxed the boxer. hmmm
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Go back and watch all the rounds I gave to GGG very closely, you'll see what I saw, GGG parrying, slipping and blocking shots with his gloves, arms and shoulders, and consistently connecting with stiff jabs and occasional power shots, Canelo landed here and there as well, and defended well, but he didn't do enough to win the rounds I gave to GGG. I tend to be a stickler for accuracy, I don't give a damn about the "story" or "narrative" of the match, which didn't necessarily go GGG's way, he looked skittish and hyper cautious, but he still managed to outboxed Canelo in the vast majority of the rounds. Yes Canelo did better than he did in the first fight, yet ironically lost more rounds IMO, most of the rounds he lost the first time around were 60-40, and that was roughly 7-8 of them, whereas the other night he lost 8-9 of them 53-47 or 52-48, its like like splitting hairs. But if you block out the commentary that biases you, and only focus on what's landing clean, GGG won it 9-3.
     
  7. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't even know how it works let alone have the ability to speak to how effectively it works. However it does seem to me compubox tends to be more accurate than the dicks on youtube and whatnot who do their slo-mo videos while counting punches. What is and is not a scoring punch seems to be a subject for debate and I just happen to tend to agree with compubox more than I do independent sources for most fights ...... when I give enough of a **** to count punches.

    I dunno if it's a couple of dicks ringside or a computer...seems like with the name compubox it'd be a computer but maybe they just mean it mathematically.
     
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  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You cant blame compu box ..blame the system.

    In a live fight you aren't actually seeing whats landing but what you think is bc you cant review anything beyond arena replays.


    Jabs cannot win a fight unless its the only shots landing ..

    Jabs cannot actually over rule body shots or other power shots landing unless the jabs are actual power shots which are subjective.

    Another topic today was DEFENSE....

    Defense is not actually a stat on the scoring cards ( that's reality) its uselss bc the guy who lands is winning...judges don't count how many punches you avoided or dodged

    Defense is PART of the fighters make up ,its not actual scoring criteria unless the punch count is very close and the other fighter starts looking sloppy and so forth.
     
  9. the factor

    the factor Active Member banned Full Member

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    Compubox cannot be taken seriously. You got two guys pressing buttons, one for each fighter so right there you have room for a difference in the way they perceive whether a punch has landed or not. Compubox is just 2 more judges who instead of recording what they see in their head like the actual fight judges, record by pressing buttons. A couple of guys have said they would trust cb over slomo. I cannot see why. The only way to know what is going on is with slomo.
     
  10. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I've discussed this in another thread.

    When Canelo was outlanding Cotto/Mosley, he was given a minimum of 9/10 rounds of the 12.

    When he was being outlanded by Lara/Trout/Mayweather/GGG has was still being given 6/7 rounds by Judges.



    Now, whether Compubox is accurate or not, the same device has resulted in different scores.

    It's pretty clear Canelo is the subject of Favorable scoring, without which, he could have up to 4 more losses!
     
  11. sponge

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    Compubox is not always a measure who wins a fight.

    Judges has the always the last say.

    If this was an amateur scoring, GGG wins by a mile.
     
  12. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He just has a very pleasing to the eye kind of style, it's clear the dude can box and move...to the layman, aswell as to the expert and everything in between. I believe that, in part, explains his popularity and the favour of the judges somewhat.
     
  13. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But it wasn't. It was professional fight where GGG looked tentative and lost for more than half the fight and paid the price for it.
     
  14. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Paulie Malignaggi puts his point across brilliantly.

    Like he said there's no way you can give Canelo 7 rounds in that bout, he also states how bad the judging is in boxing.

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  15. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Paulie is full of it. rounds 1, 2, 3, 4 5, 6, 8, 9 and 12(and you can also argue the rest) can easily go to Canelo. Unless you only count jabs, in which case your scoring abilities are highly put into question.