Well, obviously Mr. Ringrat has ties to this company. Can you pass on a message for me? The simulation has a fundamental flaw which greatly reduces simulation accuracy. Whenever a fighter gets hit by a decent punch, his stamina drops a bar, regardless of his endurance rating. The effect is that if a fighter has great stamina, but poor defense and/or accuracy, he will always gas out before a fighter who has far worse stamina, but good defense and/or accuracy. For example, Pavlik will ALWAYS gas out before Taylor, even if you adjust the ratings to be realistic.
The rating you used for Pavlik was probably done prior to his victory over Taylor. They both have been redone since and will be in the new database released with version 2.5
To run a career you have to use a bit of imagination. The current version has no career mode. If you check out the "Inside the Ropes" section on the OOTP board you will see what some have done. Version 3 which will probably be out late 2008 will contain a full RPG mode.
Did you have the weight adjust button checked? If you did Calzaghe would have been at a great disadvantage. Without the weight adjust button checked I just ran 100 fights and Marciano finished with a record of 50-41-9 against Joe. Considering Marciano is a 13 and the version of Joe I used is a 10, Joe did quite well.
What would you prefer, the exact same result to happen every single time they fought? I'm not sure what you would be looking for. In 100 bouts Lewis' record was 51-38-11. I don't see where that is off. In the end Lewis won the bout but Vitali was getting the better of him. If anything I'd say the results are little too skewed in the favor of Lewis.
If Mr. Ringrat is who I think he is then he has no ties to the game. He is a valuable contributor to the board and does love the game. I am part of the development team. I really don't think the stamina is that much of an issue and once again you were looking at a rating of Pavlik prior to the Taylor fight. Prior to the Taylor fight there was no reason that Pavlik should have been rated hire. Although we did end up rating Pavlik higher after the fight, I'm not so sure that was the proper route to go. IMO Nothing really changed in that bout. He still has a ton of power and still is flawed defensively. Both fighters proved their chin isn't all that it's was supposed to be. The latest rating of Pavlik has him at 10. When rating fighters we try our best to stay objective and not let or fanboy sides come into the discussion. After a new rating we run tests against the fighters actual schedule and try to make sure the results are similar. It is never going to be 100% because of the individuality of the sport. One fighters style might work well in one fight and hamper him in the next. When running careers with TBCB the best will always rise to the top but the variables put into the engine will always allow an upset here or there. The game is not for everyone but it is without a doubt the best and most realistic boxing simulation on market.
I am in no way shape or form connected to the company which makes and distributes Title Bout Championship Boxing, a company, I might add, based in Europe called OOTP Developments. I am just a simple fan trying to share my enjoyment of a boxing simulation with the boxing fans of the world....or at least this forum.:nut You seem like dedicated fans yourselves. As for the gassing out, you'd have to ask the technical lads at TBCB about that. I personally think that if a guy has good endurance the bar's diminishing doesn't truly reflect how much petrol he has left.
Ok, but how do explain the stamina issue? The sim is interesting, but when I see someones stamina plummet every time they get hit, it turns into something quite unrealistic.
I have yet to see a single complaint on the OOTP board about the endurance. The bar does drop during the round but if the fighter has decent endurance it will not run out during the fight unless they are taking a beating, which sounds like the situation in the one you simmed. I'm sure Pavlik's endurance has been raised, but the new ratings will not come out until TBCB 2.5 is released. Come to the board and post about the endurance, let's see what type of response it gets. I've had the same universe running since 2004. I play the game every single day. I've never really had a problem with the endurance. If something is broken in the endurance, honestly, it will not get fixed quickly. It would take an engine overhaul and that has zero chance of happening any time soon. Version 3 is going to concentrate on the RPG aspect of the game. Version 4 will probably not be until 2010 or 2011 so there might be a chance of some engine work in that one.
Alright, in that case I am probably wrong. Thanks for posting and for helping make the useful/fun simulator.
I've had the most recent version since it came out, and I honestly can't recall ever seeing a problem related to endurance. But you've got me thinking. You and all the rest of the gang here are welcome to drop in at the TBCB forum and post your questions and comments. While you're there, check out the amazing universes that the lads have cobbled together. :hi: