You know nothing about boxing. Haye will hit valuev with punches he's felt before. KO'ing cheese chinned macca and getting a premature UK stoppage against an old barrett doesn't mean you punch harder than any other heavy that valuev has faced. I see a 12 rd decision for haye, but only if he keeps his cool and doesn't fade. I could also just as easily see him getting stopped by the big dummy. There's a reason haye straight ducked both klits. He's just not that good afterall. :deal