Congrats to vitali on comeback win....

I don't know how you can consider him out of shape. If you look at the weigh-in pictures, you can clearly see his stomach muscles. A lot of people think the guy is fat, because of his neck and face in pictures, yet every time he gets into the ring he is in fighting condition.

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That isn't out of shape.

 

Peter didn't look like the same fighter last night but the reason for that was Vitaly. He fought tall and Peter had no answer for that. The reason Peter looked good in the Toney rematch, Maskaev, Williams, and a few others is because of styles. Peter was able to get inside and land his big shots. That never happened last night because Vitaly wouldn't let him.

When you add it all up-the layoff, opponent, age, the beatdown in the ring, then I think this was a very big win for Vitaly. He deserves a lot of credit. I hope he sticks around for few more fights and this has to make you wonder what he could have done had he been injury free the last four years.

 

Peter at 257 stomach muscles or not was too heavy for his height in this fight. 235 would be a much better weight.

When do we get a new Dempsey or Louis to get rid of these slow giants.

 

NOW, hes called David Haye :yep

Yep Peter was immobile at 257, he should be at 220, no 6'0 HW can carry that weight effectively, FFS Peter doesnt even hit that hard.

 

I was impressed, too.

I think alot of Vitali's impressiveness was due to Peter sucking, but Klitschko definitely looked good in the ring. He held up his end of the bargain and came to win, and he did, impressively.

 

Yes, it is in his standards. He was fighting 10+ pounds over his normal fighting weight.

 

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Growth Hormone gut?

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Vitali fights exactly as he should given his immense assets and great athletic talent. He and his brother are on an absolute different plane than the current crop. And he has the mentality which sometimes Wlad lacks. No trainer would ever try to convince Vitali to fight hands high, bent forward with conventional footwork. It would take away those assets previously mentioned. And at 37, he is a phenom.

 

Great point. Hence why Frank Bruno never, ever really looked like a 'natural' fighter.

 

Did anybody else think Vitali's punching technique last night was, at times, simply terrible?

I couldn't believe that Peter was just letting Vitali flail away with super-telegraphed arm punches...it looked like a young Foreman in there, minus the bonecrushing power.

 

Taking everything into context, I'd say Vitali looked awfully good for someone who hadn't had a professional fight in four years, and was thirty seven. he put his punches together well, and utilised good ring movement to keep Peter at bay.

But...I've seen glaciers melt more quickly than Peter punched last night, and gave the impression of really not being interested in fighting at any point during the course of those eight rounds.

So, yeah...props to Klitschko, but let's see how he fares against a more stern form of resistance.

 

You people simply do not understand that the rules of punching and defense that apply to a 6-foot man do not apply the same way to one who is 6-7. The taller man has more tangents of both offense and defense, more angles and use of distance. It does not require him to be- as most of us have been taught- elbow tight to ribs, guard high. That become a waste of energy. Hell, do look at classic Holmes performances. He broke more rules than he adhered to, but his style complimented his advantages.

 

Peter weighed 253 and 1/2 for Vitali. Peter has fought 7 times since December of 2005, and has weighed over 250lbs. all but once. Peter weighed 249 in his rematch with James Toney. Peter was 257 the first time he and Toney fought.

 

He wasn't. He came in at 253lbs and his weight has around that since 2005. The lowest being 249lbs and the highest 257lbs. A few pounds either way for a guy who weighs that much isn't a big deal, I don't think.

 

Excellent post Jack. Did you read mine?

Look at the time on those posts, there's no way I gave you the idea to post that.