Come back down to planet pluto please. Liston would **** all over Cooney, just ask George Foreman - GF says Liston was the only guy to constantly make him back up in sparring & he could do it WITH HIS JAB.
Cleveland Williams was a b-minus fighter at best, like Cooney, so I figure the outcome would be similar unless Cooney's superior power (in one punch that had to be setup exactly right came in to play). Liston feasted on sub-par fighters, look at his resume. Williams, Machen, the like... He wins this one also.
Foreman met Liston when George was green as baby ****. And Foremen contradicts himself every 5 minutes on the 12. There is no argument that can be based on his assertions.
Not really mate, just stating my point of view (some might agree some mightn't). I just like some classic debate, nought wrong with that.
Sonny has this fight won at the staredown and 56 seconds later, kayoes Gerry, ruining a lot of people's dream of Cooney dominance.
No, I have not read all of the posts in this thread but I'm sure most are picking Liston by KO. Some are probably insulted by the thought of cooney even having a chance. Oh well, they'll have to get over it... I think Cooney has a chance. Cooney was big... 6'6" with an 81" reach and 225 solid Lbs. Liston was 6' with a reach of 84" (I doubt it) and solid between 210-215 Lbs. Cooney fought and beat guys bigger than Liston. Liston didn't even beat guys as big as himself. With that said, Cooney would enjoy a 5 1/2-6" height advantage and would be 10-15 Lbs. heavier. The reach? Even if Liston's reach was 84"... when your 6" shorter and have to punch up... a 3" longer reach is negated. Cooney beat past prime versions of Jimmy Young KO4 (6'2" 223 Lbs), Ron Lyle KO1 (6'3" 215 Lbs), and Ken Norton 54 seconds (6'3" 225 Lbs) prior to fighting a prime Larry Holmes LKOby13 (6'4" 213 Lbs). He also beat Dino Denis KO3, Leroy Boone KO6, Phillip Brown KO4, and Eddie Gregg KO1 among others. You know what Liston did, right? He beat Cleveland Williams x2, Folley, Machen, and Patterson x2. He was schooled by Ali x2. I think Cooney has a chance.
Machen was right around 200 Lbs... Johansson stopped him in 1, Liston won by decision. Patterson and Folley were good smaller HWs with less than great chins... Patterson was down more than any other HW Champ. Williams kinda sucked. Summerlin would have been stopped quickly by Cooney as would M. Marshall.