Cotto-Floyd 2 Dec 1 In MSG?

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  1. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    Nah he eat,sleeps,**** boxing. Hes been doing this all his life he aint a freak IMO. Its just his life.
     
  2. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    Anytime Cotto wasent forcing floyd to the ropes he had **** all. And when he did,it was nice to see but still had **** all. Was entertaining but Floyd is
    Floyd.
     
  3. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    You cant say Floyd would do 147 EZ than Cotto would struggle then say, It would not affect anything.
     
  4. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    Exactly, and that's why I would welcome a rematch. The first fight was excellent and if there is a rematch, it could potentially surpass the first, for both fighters will be making adjustments.
     
  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I watched the fight plenty. You must have missed the part where Floyd tried to muscle Cotto off him and was pushed right back. Cotto didn't do badly in the center of the ring himself with his jab and movement. Floyd simply doesn't turn his opponents consistently. Again, he's been cornered by lesser fighters, and would be cornered again. I gave Cotto more like 3 or 4 rounds, and regardless, most were competitive. My prediction of what tools Cotto would use and his performance was closer than most I read on the forum, so I think after watching Floyd back up in a straight line against every jabber and pressure fighter he's faced, I'm confident the second fight won't be any kind of white-wash. It's got nothing to do with underrating Floyd, who is great, but simply recognizing faults in past fights as well as their last fight and applying them to possible scenarios in a rematch. I really hope you don't think Floyd fought off the ropes "for the fans."
     
  6. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I can see how you misinterpet... I should have worded it better Floyd would make the weight a lot easier than Cotto would though I beleive the action would dwindle down when compared to the first bout. It would be intresting because both men are known for make crucial adjustments in fights and after fights, you really never know what sort of game plan they are coming with because they are consistantly inconsistant...they approach every fight with a new game plan.
     
  7. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Ishida is like 6"2 and has been fighting at middleweight. Kirkland had a ton of problems making weight. Dehydration is shown to reduce punch resistance.

    Molina didn't outbox ****. He fought extremely dirty and negative. He deserved to be DQ'd by round 6 for the excessive holding.
     
  8. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Floyd doesn't turn them consistently, because he's naturally a flat footed boxer puncher. When he wants to(Castillo 2 and the Jesus Chavez fight) he can. It's out of character because it burns more energy than simply fending him off.

    Cotto is just too predictable a fighter. Slow feet and hands. Very simple punch selection. Comes in straight lines. Can't box. He's just basic, and he was only even competitive because Floyd was flat footed and he outweighed Floyd by 10+ pounds on fight night. Cotto lost to Pac even more comprehensively because Manny didn't stand in front. Cotto has and will always struggle with good movers.
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    tough fight and close fight aren't the same thing. Floyd said the Augustus fight used to be his toughest one despite him shutting Augustus out
     
  10. avenel

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  11. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto vs May was better then Pac vs Bradley, but Floyd clearly won the fight. There's no need to do it over. Cotto will loose again.
     
  12. TonyD407

    TonyD407 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends on how Guerrero looks this weekend ?

    i can see him being the tune up fight for floyd
     
  13. Da Boxer

    Da Boxer Cotto Soldier Full Member

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    Im with you. Cotto/Floyd is on my top 2-3 fights of all times. The ring IQ was off the charts, the inside fighting was at the highest level and the sportmanship was ATG! Overall, a clinic of boxing! :good

    I do love Floyd! He is on my top list along with Miguel, Gomez and Tito.

    Floyd's defense is off the charts and his ability to counter is second to none....but I must say "yo voy al mio!" meaning....Ill back my fighter not matter what!

    Cotto vs Floyd 2 will be an outstanding match, one that would be great for boxing and one that would be of epic proportions.

    I gave Miguel the benefit of the doubt, and I gave him 5 rounds to 7, yes I do love Miguel, so I may be a bit bias.....but we all know that lots of rounds could have gone either way.

    Make this fight! Ill fly from Bahrain (working here) just to make this fight!!

    :happy
     
  14. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    It was a good fight last time Cotto fought well but it would be the same result if they fought 10 times. Rather see a different fight for each
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You're confusing basic and predictable with textbook; he's a textbook boxer-puncher. Cotto did well disguising his body work and mixing up his combinations on the inside. He also surprised Floyd a few by stepping into a southpaw left (and catching him almost every time). I don't see how you can say he can't box when he circled Mayweather in the center effectively one round and caught him with plenty of jabs in the middle of the ring in other rounds. Floyd is mobile, but he's hardly ever lateral (especially not to the extent Manny was); as you said, it's out of character. I'd consider Cotto turning Margarito a better display of lateral movement than Floyd has shown since his days at 130 & 135. Many have cornered him, and I believe Cotto can corner him again. The question is what he does once he gets him there, and I believe ambushing and stepping back after throwing instead of staying there can work to his advantage. Making close rounds turn in his favor probably depend on a more consistent use of the jab, more defensive lateral movement, and not letting him set into a rhythm against the ropes. A few adjustments like that can go a long way.