Cotto's second try at beating a legit titleholder

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  1. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vanilla is correct in that Cotto has never defeated an established champion for their belt. Clottey's IBF was also won in a vacant title match as it originally belonged to Margarito who took it off Cintron but was forced to give it up to fight Cotto. Let's just say that if Cotto can defeat Clottey his resume will be right up there next to Margarito's for quality of competition at 147. The best thing Cotto can do is fight and defeat Paul Williams if he wants to become the top P4P fighter. PBF will never likely fight a true welterweight so long as he can pick on little guys like JMM and Pacquiao.
     
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  2. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree, Cotto really needs to man up and fight Paul Williams and rematch Margarito to redeem himself. Basically Margo by losing to Mosley has really screwed up the welterweight rankings so now there's no clear undisputed champion at 147. Paul Williams needs to get back in the mix of things.
     
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  3. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whatever you are smoking, must be some good ****.:rasta:rasta:silly
     
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  4. CArealm

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    Cotto and Marquez are the only ones fighting "the top dogs"
     
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  5. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    another ****ing moron who dosent contribute to the thread. Just says some b.s he wouldnt say to peoples face in the streets. Your mad ****ing cool dude. The top dogs at jww and ww were hatton and mayweather. Did cotto fight either? The top dogs currently are pacqiou and paul williams. Will cotto fight either? :hi: See you later loser
     
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  6. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    well technically clottey isnt defending his belt since he dropped it to fight cotto
     
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  7. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    You put too much emphasis on belts/titles and the useless P4P myth that's all I'm gonna say...
     
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  8. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If and I say a big "if" Cotto can manage a win tonight. The best thing he could do is get a rematch with Mosley. The first was a very close call in which I would have gave Sugar the nod. But I am not mad at Cotto getting a close decison.

    While I would like to see any top welter fight Williams (Sugar, Cotto, Floyd, Berto, even Collazo or fuk it even Bring Cintron back down for a fight). He needs to get back in the mix at 47. He's gonna have to bait someone into that. Start showing up at the welter fights and calling em out in public places, show up at the pressers.
     
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  9. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am putting emphasis on strong proven champions. Which cotto has never beaten...
     
    VanillaKilla, Jun 13, 2009
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  10. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True but they just took it. After the fight was announced,right? But basically he has a champions mentality and heart. And he has a hell of a shot.
    Cotto deserves credit for taking this.
     
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  11. Shane

    Shane Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mosley?
     
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  12. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I normally would agree but 2 factors prevent me. Mosley wasnt champ at the time, and he was backing cotto up in the last rounds. And cotto only won by a round. It was an amazing win against a legend dont get me wrong.
     
    VanillaKilla, Jun 13, 2009
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  13. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    Cotto knew he won the fight...why risk getting hit with something unnecessary from a heavy hitter in Mosley? Cotto beat Mosley to the punch all night even though their hits on each other were quite even - also, Cotto's jab won him the fight. I had Cotto winning by two rounds actually. People say Cotto was gassed in the Mosley fight but after watching it again, he wasn't gassed (lil tired yea) he was just playing it safe.
     
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  14. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** talking on the internet forum. Usless, just stop it. It dosent mean ****. I could go on here talking all the **** but it wont do anything. SO how about instead of filling your post with **** talking, fill it with a good argument ok. Because people like you make hard working boricuas with education stereotyped into dumb hood rats. And stop getting all jumpy. Im a cotto fan, i like him. I just dont go down on him like you do, blinded by love. Its ok to criticize people, if you got decent facts backing it up. thats all i got to say to you
     
    VanillaKilla, Jun 13, 2009
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  15. jalyn23

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    it is funny, i am glad someone else knows that cotto has only won vacant titles, arum did a great job i am not saying that cotto could not beat the former champions like paul williams who's belt he currently owns (by beating jennings) who i still til this day dont know how he was ranked 1 in anything...but i agree tonight will tell alot
     
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