Cotto'z 5 vs Margo'z 5

People down play cotto's victory over Mosley way too much..Mosley is a man who's only loses were to Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright, 2 fighters who have seen high p4p rankings. Both fighters potentially HOF material. Before fighting Cotto, Mosley defeated Luis Collazo who is no slouch himself and is 10 years younger than Mosley. Mosley has shown no signs of being shot at all what so ever..Cotto's win over Mosley wasn't anything to down play, Mosley is still a great fighter who a lot of people say could've given Floyd hell had they fought. Aside from all this, I have every doubt that Margo would be able to stop Mosley. Today's mosley or the "old Mosley".

 

Cotto:

- Shane Mosley
- Zab Judah
- Ricardo Torres
- DeMarcus Corley
- Paul Malignaggi

Margarito:

- Kermit Cintron x 2
- Frankie Randall
- Joshua Clottey
- Antonio Diaz

 

Margarito loses to nobody Cotto fought.

Cotto loses to Williams, Cintron, Diaz, and Clottey. All by knockout. :gun

 

I would pick Cotto over Cintron, Diaz and Clottey, but not Williams.

 

That's very pro-Cotto of you.

 

Cintron would get torn apart by Cotto. He's got the one big punch, but Cotto hasn't looked like he's going to get KO'd at all at 147. Cotto systematically breaks him down.

 

Cintron can't handle himself inside. Falls apart. Clottey would be game for about 5 rounds but would tire like he always does then it'd be all Cotto. Diaz is simply too small for this version of Cotto.

Williams is the only one of the bunch who would give Cotto a serious run for his money. At 6'2 and 81 inch reach he'd pepper Cotto from a distance and force Cotto to lunge in. At that point Williams would land that same counter left he hit Quintana with. All in all I would expect Williams to dominate.

 

You only say Cotto would lose to Williams because Margo lost to Williams so you would'nt want to admit that a guy that your boy lost to would get beat by Cotto, don't think nobody can't see through your agenda.

 

Adolescent mind. What are you fifteen?

 

Def you don't even deny what I have posted so you have to say that my post was "Adolescent" when I actually came off quite mature in my post.

 

Immediately jumping to the idea of allegiance is something noteworthy of an adolescent mind.

Are we talking about Margarito - Williams? No, we are talking about Cotto - Williams.

Williams redeemed himself by knocking Quintana out in a single round. The story behind the first match is crystal clear. He underestimated him. He wouldn't underestimate Cotto. It's got nothing to do with Margarito winning or losing to Williams. Two completely different fights here.

 

A 1 round KO does'nt erase 12 round of being outclassed and looking flawed but that's just my personal opinion,Williams 1st round destruction of Quintana reminds me of how fickle boxing fans can be.

 

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We disagree again raf. I belive that Margo would prob beat everyone of cotto's top 5 bar Shane. Not saying that shane would win but it would be a close one and Shane has the potential to win a decision. I honestly do not think that Margo would be able to stop Mosley, but hey thats my opinion.

To your second point, no way does Cotto lose to Cintron, Diaz or Clottey. Especially by knockout. Williams is the only one to give him problems due to his height and reach advantage but I reckon Cotto would destroy Pauls body and take the fight out of him. Cotto by stoppage in thhis one.

 

Lets look at what really matters here.

Williams did not even spar southpaws to prepare for Quintana. He went into that fight thinking Q would be a gimmie.

Constantly in the fight he looked like the same guy who fought Pakau. He fell in, gave up his height and reach constantly and just walked into Quintana's shots without concern. Despite that the fight was still close. I think it is more than fair to say that he looked at Q as though he was a nobody.

In the rematch Williams looked much different. He reserved his height and worked behind a good jab. He forced Q to come forward a little bit more and that left Q a little more predictable. And that opened the door for the left to get through.

Already we know Williams takes a helluva shot. He walked through Qs shots and outlasted Margarito's best shots in their fight. I have no doubt he'd take whatever Cotto could manage to land.

He would likely also take a Cotto fight very seriously. And in doing so he wouldn't fall in. Cotto would have to lunge in to land on Williams and that is where Cotto would become more obvious. Being a smaller pressure fighter this would be bad for his attacks to be more obvious. And it'd make him an easier target for the counter left.

We also now know that when Williams sits down on his punches he can crack. If he could deck Quintana in one round he can likely deck Cotto in one round.

Going up against that sort of size, durability and reserve would be one hell of a challenge for Cotto. And it's one I don't see him getting beyond.

 

There is a possibility that Clottey would shut down under pressure and stop punching if Cotto wouldn't go away and he couldn't hurt him, but only a possibility. Clottey is an extremely durable explosive counter puncher, and he is one of the few welterweights who could make Cotto truly pay for his lunging. Cotto's chin would give before Clottey's body and will IMO. You have to be solid as a rock to discourage Clottey. That's the last thing Cotto is.

Diaz stood toe to toe with Margarito for 10 rounds and landed the kind of bombs that would have had Cotto on a stretcher. Diaz, in his prime, would blast Cotto in the chops enough times with clean hard leads and counters to get him out of there. This is a full on trench warrior we're talking about. Maybe you need to watch that fight with Margarito again because he was going to TOWN on Antonio at different points.

If Cintron can stand in with Margarito and trade huge bombs for 6 rounds he can withstand the cummulative onslaught of Cotto for that long or longer. That's enough time for him to show off his only real gifts as a fighter - tremendous accuracy and a big right hand. Who says he has to stay on the inside? I agree he's **** on the inside, as is virtually everyone in the Kronk stable past and present. Cotto is fool enough to dance out and give an opponent opportunities at full range. Cintron finds that range, and gets to Cotto before Cotto gets to him - and Top Rank damn well knows it.

Those three guys right there ^ would not be hyptonitized or overly impressed with Cotto playing his in and out wax-on-wax-off lunging game. Primarily, Cotto is a guy who likes to take turns, outgun, and overpower his opposition. If you keep throwing hard stuff at Cotto and stand up to him he gets focused on defending himself and not getting caught.