Could Eubank's unique style have given Hopkins big problems?

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  1. atberry

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    Eubank at MW would have beaten Hopkins.
    Hopkins wouldnt have been able to hang with a big strong MW like Eubank.
    Eubank wouldnt have been bullied on the inside with illegal holding and would have been stinging Hopkins with enough shots to win a UD.
    Hopkins at MW at first ask couldnt beat Jones, Mercado, Allen or Taylor in 2 attempts.
     
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    Style wise it is an interesting fight.
    Jab: Eubank
    Power: Eubank
    Defense: Hopkins
    Offense: Hopkins - by a little bit
    footwork: Hopkins
    Intangibles: Eubank
    blueprint fight: Hopkins vs Taylor I

    I think the fight comes down to intangibles. Eubank has shown in his fights with Thompson I, Thompson II and Benn that he can fight threw the pain and still try to win, Hopkins on the other hand resorts to fouling and bad acting. I think Eubank takes it by ud.
     
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    Eubank's defensive reflexes were very, very, very good.

    And yes, he was 10x the fighter Hopkins was in terms of intangibles - see Eubank-Watson II and Hopkins-Calzaghe/Jones II/Dawson
     
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    Eubank was not on Hopkins level.
     
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    Its hard to compare a technically based defense against an athletic based defense, but yes, I do agree with you here

    Hopkins offense tends to be good against 1d punchers like Pavlik and Tito against guys with speed: Taylor, Calzaghe he fights a more cautius fight.
    I agree. Once Eubank stepped into the ring he was there to the finish - unlike our friend mr Hopkins.
     
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    If your getting dropped by Segundo Mercado twice, then the chances are your chin won't beable too take many G-man punches.

    It also doesn't matter how good a fighter is defensively they are still going to have to take flush shots during the fight.
     
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    Graham is a bad match up for most fighters - but I would give Benn a punchers chance.
     
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    Eubank lacked a jab against good fighters. He could not fight inside, and nor would he be able to deal with Hops infighting and rough housing tactics.
     
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    It be an ugly fight .. Its a pickem fight imo .
     
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    Eubank could never beat a guy on the level of a Hopkins. Mentioning Mercado is your only defense as to why Eubank beats Hop. As easily as Collins, Watson, and others hit Eubank, Hop would have a ****ing field day on Eubanks face.
     
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    Benn and Watson Twice
     
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    What about those two?
     
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    I think Eubank gives hopkins hell and Hopkins gives eubanks hell in a close fight probably with Hopkins just eeking it out.
    Eubank was in it for the money but I think he underestimated or underplayed his own ability I certainly think he wouldn't be outclassed by Hopkins or even RJJ whom he himself said he had no chance against but I think he would have had a chance.
     
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    Eubank beat 2 weight world champ Benn, undefeated 2 weight world champ Rocchigiani and beat many other world rated fighters like L Homes, Watson, Wharton etc. Eubank would have handled Hopkins at MW. Hopkins has trouble with top world class fighters his own size. Im sure you can state Tarver, but Eubank was a completely different level and would have given Hopkins fits
     
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