Could Fury have beaten prime Wladimir?

So you’re saying that had Tyson not have fought the final round in the manner that he did, that we’d have seen a similar outcome in the rematch?

 

No, this is was a stylistic matchup that Wlad could not adapt to in order to deal with.....AJ is more fluid with combinations and can infight Wlad never really could

 

Correct.

 

You quoted a week old post, are you 12 years old or what?
Yeah he was heavily declined. I never said he was shot to *****.
But yeah it was pretty much 50% of what he was.
And yeah he was that good, that even on 50% could beat the top guys on a certain night.
And yeah Fury run out of signed rematch twice.
In my book, that is not a duck, that is a equal to a - lost.
Not only that, but he was on nandrolone and the first fight should have been waved as a NC.
You have your opinion, okay, no problem with it, but let other people tell theirs and have their opinion as well, ok?

Again people are always way too bias to see the reality.
Fury did won, but Fury barely won by 3-4 rounds, and he won this rounds by just throwing a few punches more and landing a few punches more.

Fury did his best, was at his best, even this 50% past prime Klitschko could have just adjust to what he did wrong, and just put his hands go, as he did against AJ.
He would have won that fight easily. He did have a bad night, it happen, esp. when you are 40 years old.

 

Could he? Yes but I would have favoured Wlad in his prime e.g the Wlad the beat Povetkin amd Pulev.

 

So in your book, they’re 1-1?

Maybe Wlad will come out of retirement so that we can have a trilogy?

Ha!

You’re too much.

 

Again, I respect your opinion. But why did Wlad approach the fight with tactics for 11 rounds, where he went feint for feint with him?

Every knowledgeable fan knew that they were the wrong tactics for Wlad to employ.

You don’t go feint for feint with a bigger guy who’s great on his feet.

Wlad needed to be aggressive from the outset, where he had a huge advantage in power over him.

To me, it was a psychological block.

Fighting Tyson was a huge shock to his system.

 

wouldnt that logic make it 0-1 for Wlad with one no contest. So in his world Wlad already won

 

nadrolone accusation was different fight. It was vs Hammer where he won no 1 contendership not against klichko

 

Once again, I respect your opinion. But I don’t buy it. Because you’re saying that if Tyson hadn’t have opened up in the last round, as well as in the rematch, that we’d more than likely have seen another 12 rounds where they went feint for feint. That would have been 24 rounds of doing the same thing against a guy who was never known as being a hard puncher. That would have been ridiculous.

Wlad had fought very big punchers before. Again, he’d seen Tyson face to face in camp. He’d also seen Tyson’s earlier fights. Again, every knowledgeable fan knew that the tactics that Wlad employed were foolish. Why would you go feint for feint with a bigger guy who’s less powerful, and who’d also been dropped by a CW. It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. You don’t have to be Angelo Dundee to realise that his best game plan would have been to have fought Tyson aggressively.

Wlad had fought almost 70 fights. He wasn’t a novice. He should have known how to approach the fight. I don’t see why he needed to personally feel how powerful Tyson was before deciding on whether or not to change tactics. I can’t believe that at all. Jonathan Banks was telling him to let his hands go. Personally, I think that Tyson’s style and character was a huge shock to his system.

 

Is it hard to accept that everyone have their opinions? Its not only you on the planet earth?
People on here also have to accept that everyone have bad nights for whatever reason, but that doesn`t mean they can`t bounce back.
Like 80% of the people on here was giving zero chance on Joshua against Ruiz in the rematch, yet Joshua schooled him.
But if Ruiz had run like Fury did, and the rematch never happen i bet this people would say that Joshua could never ever beat Ruiz.
Fury clearly lost to John McDermott in their first fight, but he won the rematch just a 6 month later clearly.
At the end of the day this is fighting and everything can happen.
I would have bet that McGregor would beat Poirier, yet the guy literally destroyed him.
You got to judge the fighter by his quality.

 

Fury beats any version of Wlad ever conceived even in any parralel universes

 

Except of course, that Fury ducked a rematch with a 40 year old fighter whom Fury himself described as "****".