Could Fury have beaten prime Wladimir?

I struggle to see Wlad ever beating Fury tbh.

He won a lot of his fights because he perfected the "bigger fighter" routine in a way that very few men his size ever did.

But Fury is bigger, stronger and quicker which automatically takes away many of the advantages Wlad dominated with.

 

Fury would have beaten wlad 9 out of 10 times.
The funniest thing is that wlad would be especially in trouble if he kdowned fury.
He would think that the fight will be over any time soon and would massively underestimate the immense toughness fury brings to the table, he would then find himself on the bad end of a dog fight.
Fury can fight on the inside, something wlad is even worse at then wilder.

l think its obvious wlad knows that, the guy is so bitter about his loss to fury cause he knows that he would never defeat him.

fury is currently the best HW of all time and till now nobody beats him. I am not a big fan of his, i just call it the way it is, his height plus movement is just impossible to deal with.

 

Styles make fights and Fury's style is all wrong for Wlad. Prime Wlad may have done a bit better, been a bit quicker on the draw but I don't see how he could of ever beaten Fury fighting that kind of fight we saw. The spoiler was out spoiled.

Wlad's style under Steward was clear, beat opponent to the punch using speed and size and then spoil by clinching to prevent being countered or move, basically prevent any type of exchange of punches which led to Wlad being KO'ed in the past and control the pace to suit Wlad. Fury turned his own style against him, beat Wlad to the punch using his superior size and movement and Wlad being unable to counter and having spent a decade learning not to exchange was left with no way to amount any offence.

What could Wlad do differently? He isn't going to beat Fury to the punch even in his prime as he'd struggle to get in range and position to fire off first against the mobile Fury. He isn't suddenly going to abandoned the style that gave him a decade of dominance by suddenly becoming a pressure fighter and even if he could somehow go back to his old aggressive style, he'd have the same problems he had in the past and gas badly if he doesn't get Fury out early.

Plus Wlad was never a very adaptable fighter it took him years to learn from previous mistakes and master the style that led to his success, he isn't just going into a camp and changing his style so quickly.

 

Firstly, Fury was 26 years old, he wasn't even prime himself by today's HW standards. People forget that.
Secondly, Wlad had been fighting like that for a long time, depending on his reach and jab and being very smug about simply winning the outside jab battle then landing his one-two or hook at some point and finishing people, therefore having little urgency.
So I think Fury would have surprised Wlad at any point and been able to do what he did.
Younger Wlad would have a slightly better chance of catching Fury more, but a prime Fury would be more dangerous to Wlad. For instance imagine Fury now fighting Wlad.
I don't think it's a given Fury always beats Wlad. I don't think any fighter would beat Wlad 10-10 times etc.

As for the rematch, Wlad obviously would have had a very good chance of winning due to the circumstances, that's why Team Fury withdrew their fighter! Fury would still have a chance due to his talent, but he wasn't training properly and was massively overweight, so claiming Wlad would have won the rematch means nothing, it's obvious he very likely would have since Fury was a mess. Fury didn't duck Wlad because he didn't think he could win, he literally lost the plot, which is different.

 

Wlad of a few years earlier with Steward, yes, but it was a poor night for Wlad and he didn't make the adjustments needed. Was vastly better vs Joshua 18 months later until late on.

 

The one who was getting starched by Puritty, Brewster and Sanders?

Or the one who was protecting his career by facing legends like Leapai, Brock, Austin, Mormeck, Thompson, Wach, Pianeta etc?

 

Tall fighters with ability would always cause problems for Klitschko. He made a career out of fighting smaller fighters and the big guys he did fight weren't that good.

 

Yes. It was a mental thing. He got under Klitschkos skin and perplexed him

 

Fury is a tough matchup for him regardless of what Wlad shows up for the fight. If Klitschko gets outjabbed and beaten to the punch he is going to have a rough night. Fury's reach advantage was also a massive factor and we know he has a good chin after he got up from supposedly the hardest punch in history.

He doesn't matchup well with Fury.

 

This. Wlad's biggest strength during his prime years was keeping smaller, slower, less skilled opponents at long range with the jab, controlling the action and keeping his chin out of danger.
Against Fury Wlad could do none of those things and he had no answer for it. Yes WK was slightly past his prime but over 12 rounds with TF he didn't land a meaningful punch, fail to see how being a few years younger and a little faster/sharper changes anything.

 

We need to see more Fury vs top opposition fights to know.so far we know Fury is better than 40 year old Wlad.

 

40 years old is very old for boxing. Slightly past prime is 35-36 for most fighters.
How many fighters even still fight at 40? Most are retired.

 

Agreed

I'd say most peak from mid 20s to early 30s then decline ... By 40 you're done and should get out before you suffer serious damage if you have had a long uninterrupted career ... Boxing is a one on one sport it's not a team sport where your teammates can help if you're an aged player or something

 

Pre Stewart, pre Brewster/-Sanders Wlad obliterates Fury. Furys boxing skill kept Wlad off him, not his "power" of which he has very little for such a big guy. Wlad would have no fear of getting KO'D and would walk through Furys slaps. Multiple knockdowns, Furys corner throws in the towel 8th round.