Could hagler have been sucessful at LHW

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets say he moves up sometime between 1984-86, how does he do against the LHWs of that era? Lets say he gets to work with a guy like mackie shilstone to put on the weight properly
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hagler was too short to carry LH weight well, the only thing that would help him was his really long reach, reach wouldn`t be a problem for him at LH but Leonard commented that Hagler was starting to slow in the Roldan fight (1984) if the top light heavies decided to out box Hagler and not do a Hearns I can`t see him having much success.
     
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  3. Unforgiven

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    He'd probably win against Dennis Andries and Bobby Czyz but they'd be tough fights.
     
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Successful, yes. Beat Bob Foster, no. Hagler had a chance to move up and passed.
     
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  5. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. SAAD Spinks or Braxton knock Hagler OUT. And he knew it.
     
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Hagler likely would have had some sort of success at LHW, he may have been a top rated contender.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No.
     
  8. BCS8

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    Probably not with Mike Spinks hanging around at LHW.

    Although, Hagler could probably have pasted some of the lesser lights of the division.
     
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  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Virgil Hill would have just danced around him and outpointed Hagler....similar to the SRL fiasco.
     
  10. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marvin Johnson in those years would have run Hag out of the ring. HAG DIDN'T HAVE POWER TO HOLD HIM OFF. BTW BUCKETHEAD czyz avoided Johnson for a reason. ALWAYS the easy path for quitter czyz
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    He wouldn't have fared well.
     
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  12. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marvin knew 15 lbs was a big stretch .

    But in this hypothetical scenario..yes the spinks,qawi and saads are too "big and seasoned"...the mid 80s batch of champions like stewart,andries,cyzyz and an ageing johnson...i think hagler beats all of them...i dont think the 84-86 hagler had slowed as much as the biased leonard makes out...he had an off night with mugabi.....it was only the leonard fight where it became abundantly clear that marvin had become old slow and tentative....i think Marvin also does well with Hill ,Harding and Charles Williams.

    Marvin was very strong,had a great engine,and iron chin....u look at what tommy did to andries and hill... mccallum to harding ..and toney 5"9 to williams...and jones jnr who was only 5 10 i think we overlook marvins attributes a little
     
  13. TBI

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    Hagler knew better.

    Hagler was a small middleweight.

    He'd never make it against the monsters at LHW.
     
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  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Leonard won that fight fair and square