Couldn't possibly have existed how they are.

Can only go by his record against men 200 plus. 11-0 with 11 KOs. Some decent names on there but no one great. Best would prob be old Louis (despite popular belief was still beating ranked contenders at the time). Vingo was 6”4 but under 200.

 

Not many people at all were as skilled as Wlad. Lewis wasn’t overtly skilled till he got older. Even then he had holes. So now you’re shifting your argument? They were good because they were skilled not necessarily shws? Trying to understand your premise. Because Bruno and Ruddock were skilled shws but were beaten by Marciano heighten man named Tyson. Need to understand this logic. If Marciano Louis Liston Ali were fighting today they wouldn’t weigh what they weigh. They would weigh more and do fine. Exhibit A is George Foreman. Who fought in both worlds. And had success in both. You could also use Holmes or Holyfield. It’s not hard to gain weight or even functioning weight. But skill is something else. And Marciano Louis Ali Liston weren’t lacking in that deartment

 

Yes several. Now answer the question or just admit you can’t and you’re argument is nonsensical.

 

It does matter. You need to recognise what giant fighters looked like, how they limited they performed as boxers before steroids.

for two fighters to ever meet they must exist at the same time in order for it to happen.

and I also pick a few other champions to beat Marciano.

 

What if their physical limitations, without PEDs prevented them from demonstrating enough skill consistently enough? A key physical element to enhance the giant to perform closer to the potential of more athletically proportioned, normally sized big men was historically absent?

I don’t think Willard or Carnera, two exceptions of the giant boxers pre steroids, were without skill. I don’t think any serious study of film can conclude they were without skill. They were good fighters. And they would compete today.

The vast majority of giant heavyweights though were quite another matter. They lacked whatever it is that is now achievable to get from modern help.

perhaps even Willard and Carnera lacked quite enough of the timing to compete with the most elite fighters of all time (Dempsey and Louis) to quite the extent that their extra mass compensated enough against the smaller champions?

 

Carnera and Willard had nowhere near the timing and skill of top modern heavies, they were both clumsy and Carnera didn`t have AJ or Wilder`s power or KO ratio`s, Andy Ruiz would have stopped Carnera in 1 round.

 

They perform liked they haven`t been schooled or won a gold at the olympics.

 

No Sir you can also go by the quality of those he beat-which if you just look at their records & who they fought is very mediocre.
Although somewhat more accomplished than Dempsey, he never beat a SHW as good as Jack's best-certainly none as good as either Baer Brother, Abe Simon, or Primo. Vingo was not only under 200 lbs., he was 179 & barely 20 years old.

Louis was still World Class but was not great & had as Rocky said "nothing" left for a right hand.
He was never near SHW & by that time had lost much of his speed & reflexes.
I do not know who else was even decent at even just early 200 lbs.
Rocky never fought a great slugger, the bane of swarmers, unlike Frazier.