Criticizing Jones' resume

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KillSomething, Jan 9, 2015.


  1. fireal221

    fireal221 Member Full Member

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    This is quite possibly one of the most well written arguments I've ever read on ESB.
     
  2. PumpDaJab

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    Why did Roy Jones Jr. have such a tiny little head? I think that is the main reason he kept getting sparked later in his careeer. Once his motor skills were done he was done. I enjoy his commentary though now.
     
  3. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the hell is wrong with you :huh
     
  4. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Tiny head = glass jawed
     
  5. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't read. :hammertime
     
  6. PumpDaJab

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    :deal
     
  7. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Well if you think about it, if a boxer has a bigger fist than your head, your going to sleep most of the time.
     
  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Even as a US Amerian citizen and huge Jones fan, I was thinking the same

    Infinitely better than anything from the pen of that dastar dly front page troll S. Gifford
     
  9. Imperial1

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    And Calzaghe fans are a bunch of insecure females with confidence issues but I see right through all of you ..

    DM was not stripped for merely holding the WBO next to the WBA and IBF..

    He was stripped of the WBA for not defending it against Lou Devalle. Devalle was promised a shot after his controversial loss to Hill .. Eventually Devalle ends up fighting for the vacant WBA title and wins it against Smulders . Jones ends up beating Devalle ,But according to you JONES STOLE THIS BELT .. Yeah your educated alright ..


    The IBF and William Guthrie

    I'm sure you will come hear and blurt out that unreasonable defense excuse again but anyone who knows the deal knows that it was DM's own promoter who stated that Guthrie was a King fighter and we will never work with King ! But I know you will say poor DM that was wrong he was un rightfully stripped yet neither stripping was ever contested ! This is why he was content with defending his WBO against the cab drivers of Germany !

    Had this been Jones you would have said he ducked Guthrie ..Meanwhile Guthrie fights Reggie Johnson for the IBF ,Johsnon wins it then defends the belt later loses it to Jones and once again this is another belt that he stole ! Yeah I find it funny that he wins it in the ring but you come here and try to rewrite history to push your agenda .. But I know your educating us :lol:


    And the lineal champ wanted the to fight the best fighter p4p and the star who called out who ? And what so should Jones have gone to Germany :lol: And since when did the Lineal champ become the best man in the division ? Its been proven time and time again that being lineal meant little if your comp was never any good ! Jones and DM basically shared the same resume with a few different exceptions the difference is with their common opponents Jones dispatched them with ease !

    Dm never had any intentions of fighting Jones unless it was on his home turf .Germany was infamous for robbing fighters and still is funny DM called Jones out but wanted the fight on his terms :lol: I know it was Jones who priced himself ..Right this was all Jones :huh


    Michalczewski: "Yes. If I get more money or at least the same money over there that I get here I would fight in the USA. I'm a professional. I'm fighting wherever I get paid the most. If they find sponsors who offer me enough money I'm gladly willing to fight in America. When I come to the US the reason is not only to fight in that country, but also to make a lot of money."


    Rocchigiani

    So Jones stole the WBC too right ,the belt he vacated right ..And Jones ducked him right.. Guess it was Jones fault as well that he chose to fight the WBC in court as opposed to fighting him in the ring . Nah you have nooo agenda here .:patsch
     
  10. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's some very good points here , roy defiantly has some poor opponents on his resume, and STB there's no threads about the other guys because jones was seen to be the main man and is talked about as a great , I think he defiantly low balled Michael nunn
     
  11. PumpDaJab

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    :rofl I've always enjoyed pointing out tiny little heads on boxers because it dont look right. It's like that guy in Beetlejuice
     
  12. lepinthehood

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  13. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    RJJ just like mike tyson looked good while crushing cans , they are good can crushers.
     
  14. PumpDaJab

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    :rofl:rofl:roflLove it Lepin, ole Roy sure did suffer from tinyheadsyndrome
     
  15. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. I can't find a source saying Michalczewski refused to fight Del Valle. Everything says he was stripped for displaying the belt along with the WBO.

    2. Michalczewski's promoter making an offhand statement is not to be construed with the fact that the sanctioning body stripped him because he did not defend within 30 days.

    3. Rocchigiani signed to fight Jones and was training for the fight when it was cancelled by Jones' promoter.

    4. Michalczewski's quote confirms what I've said. He was willing to fight in the US if he would make the same purse he made in Germany. This is not unreasonable, considering he was the lineal, undisputed, unified champion of the division. It wouldn't have been unreasonable for him to insist Jones come to Germany either. Jones requesting $10M and then $12M, on the other hand, was totally unreasonable and is what's known as "pricing oneself out." Roy being "p4p champ" has nothing to do with fight negotiations. It was a subjective ranking that a lot of people didn't agree with at the time.

    Why should Michalczewski take a pay cut AND go to RJJ's backyard to get his titles back? Why chase the titles you already owned and were stripped of?

    Hey, at least I can admit I'm a Calzaghe fan and still make a thread shedding his resume and admitting his shortcomings. RJJ had his share of shortcomings as well, and you're just denying recorded facts at this point.