Critiquing Durans resume

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  1. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Duran's lightweight run is similar to Shane Mosley's lightweight run. Except for Ken Buchanan, what other great fighter did he beat at that weight class. Please no emotion outburst, lets talk facts.

    Duran notable wins

    1.)Ken Buchanan
    2.)SRL
    3.)Pipino Cuevas ( Cuevas was coming off of a loss to Roger Stafford)
    4.)Iran Barkley (incredible accomplishment considering that stage of Duran's career and size difference he had to overcome)

    Duran should also be credited for his longevity. I mean he did fight for over 20 years at a championship level.


    A very impressive record but not enough to elevate him to the all -time top 10 pfp list.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Missed De Jesus, who was a very good fighter, and Palomino

    who said this:

    Palomino, a terrific boxer-puncher, successfully defended his title seven times during an era deep in talent before losing it by a split decision to the great Wilfredo Benitez in 1979 in Puerto Rico.
    The Mexican-born Angeleno “retired” after losing a one-sided decision to Roberto Duran in 1979 but made one of the more-remarkable comebacks in boxing history in 1997 –- when he was 47.



    Now on to Palomino’s “The Best I Faced.”

    Best overall: “It has to be Roberto Duran. I always had the idea that he was just a brawler. What surprised me was that the guy could really box –- going in and out, the feints, it was just a surprise to me. It impressed me how quick his shots were and how much power he had. And his movement surprised me.”

    Best boxer: “It would have to be Andy Price. I fought him when I was like (10-0-1) and he was like (12-1-3). I lost a split decision to him (in 1974). He was very much like Sugar Ray Leonard, very quick. I think from a boxing standpoint he was the best I faced. He was also a good puncher. You had to worry about that. He later beat Pipino Cuevas.” Leonard stopped Price (33-8-3, 13 KOs) in the first round in 1979.

    Hardest puncher: I fought this guy in the amateurs, Norman Goins from Minnesota. He did pretty well as a pro. He was a tremendous puncher. I fought him the finals of the Pan American (Games) trials and was knocked down three times, once in each round. I still won the fight — it was the amateurs -– but I got dropped three times. I’ll never forget that.”

    Fastest hands: “It would be a tie between Benitez and Price. Wilfredo was just so cagey. He could hit you from different angels and very quickly, especially his jab. Most of the punches he landed against me were jabs.”

    Fastest feet: “Duran. Watch him in his prime, with Ray Leonard or my fight with him. Watch him as a lightweight. He had the ability to move in and out so quickly. I’ve said that Manny Pacquiao reminds me a lot of Duran.”

    Best jab: Benitez. It was a very quick, snapping jab, a lot like (Muhammad) Ali’s jab.”

    Best chin: Armando Muniz. You could hit him with a ring poll and nothing would happen. [Laughs.] I nailed him all night long and hurt him. He had a chin.”

    Smartest: Benitez or Duran. Maybe Benitez was natural boxer. It was almost like he had a sixth sense. I don’t think I caught him solid in my fight with him. It seemed like he knew what was coming all the time.”

    Strongest: Muniz. He would just walk in, walk you down. He was a wrestler in high school so his head was attached to his shoulders. He had no neck. He was that kind of guy. Strong.”

    Best defense: I would say Benitez and Duran (tie) again. As I said, it was like Benitez had a sixth sense, like he knew what was coming. Duran was hard to catch also. I was trying to counter what he was doing but I couldn’t because of his quickness. They were both good defensive fighters.

    The fact you missed these two fights tells me you sweet **** all about what you're talking about.

    Anyway this is bush league bull ****, so I'll leave you idiots to yourselves to live in your own fantasy world.
     
  3. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    And what exactly am I supposed to draw from this transcript?:roll:
    Justify Duran's pfp alltime inclusion with facts.
     
  4. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    OP is proper fool
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Since you don't have the ability to comprehend, I'm not wasting another keystroke on you.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funny comment. Frazier was at the first fight between Duran and SRL and a reporter asked him if Duran reminded him of anyone, thinking he would say "Ya me" or something to that effect.

    Instead he goes "ya he reminds me of Charles Manson."
     
  7. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    IRAN BARKLEY!....IRAN FRICKIN BARKLEY? Is that what we're talking about? IRAN BARKLEY? I'm talking about pfp greatest of an era, and y'all are talking about IRAN BARKLEY!....not a great fighter. not an elite....IRAN BARKLEY!
     
  8. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If y'all were so massively impressed by duran beating barkley, y'all must came all over yourselves when hopkins at the age of 48 dropped shumenov.
     
  9. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IRAN FRICK IN BARKLEY WHO BEAT TOMMY HEARNS TWICE AND WAS A NATURALLY HUGE MIDDLEWEIGHT LOL. What is obvious that you are unwilling to accept is that Duran was a lightweight that lost to the fab 4 out of his natural weight class and past prime and after over 70 fights. You're comments are astonishingly stupid.
     
  10. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't rank you at all :patsch
     
  11. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    how about ssm ko'ing fernando vargas a much bigger guy? pretty impressive, right?...
     
  12. The Masked Man

    The Masked Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the best thing I've ever done on this site was put your dumb ass on ignore.
     
  14. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    let me tell you what's stupid...what's stupid is thinking that barkley resembles ANYTHING like a top fighter just because he beat hearns...learn your boxing, dumba88. Everybody knows barkley was a bum...

    and i give duran NO crediit for beating barkley, i don't care HOW huge barkley was. FMJ is a 38 yo super featherweight and he routinely dominates champs who weigh in at the LH limit like ortiz and canelo.

    Duran can't even hold a candle to that.