current antonio margarito vs 2000 shane mosley

Shane then, Margarito today.

 

Ok. We can play this critic game with lots of fighters. It's a dumb counter.

Lets say for example Mike Tyson. Tyson went the distance with James Tillis, who Tim Witherspoon knocked out inside of a round. He was also taken the distance with Mitch Green who had been knocked out prior.

Does this mean Tyson doesn't have power? Obviously not. When you look beyond such knucklehead sentiment you'd see that styles make fights and that power isn't always apparent. Look at Sam Peter. It's obvious the guy can crack. But some guys will get away. You won't knock everyone out.

Santos isn't a crushing puncher. But he can punch. Whether or not you accept that beyond this post is irrelevant to me. I think you need to brush up on what you understand about the sport.

Look. If you knew anything about how bad a sprained ankle can be you'd not be talking ****. When you can't put pressure on your back foot it reduces the kind of power you can deliver. Not only that but it also hinders your movement all together. He can't step off the front foot to the back foot as easily when Clottey lunges. So he's there longer, which means he gets hit more.

Cintron absolutely demolished those guys. Something other contenders could not accomplish. Whatever you think about his technique, the fact is he punches very hard. The fact is no matter what you think he was able to work himself into another position at a title and was able to hold it. That tells me he was worthy enough an opponent.

Judah hurt Cotto. He wouldn't have slugged Judah in the balls if he wasn't dazed. Mosley couldn't hurt Cotto because Mosley spent too much time trying to box with Cotto. He didn't apply enough pressure early on to keep Cotto's mobility down. He didn't attack the body enough to slow Cotto's legs down. So when it came time to actually make an impression he could not make his shots count because Cotto was on the move too much.

Torres had Cotto on ***** street. So did Corley. And he was rocked for a good amount of time. That is all you need to know about his chin. Not everyone has hurt him but guys who pack good uppercuts and a somewhat wild style have managed to tag him good. That would include Corley, Judah and Torres.

So what Margarito has been hurt. But nobody has had Margarito on ***** street for a whole round off of one solid punch. That is Cotto's chin. And that is just the facts.

If he wants to win this fight he will be on the move. He will be on his bike. If he lets Margarito get to his body early he will pay big for it later on. There is a reason why Cintron was on his way out by the 5th and 6th rounds. Standing there taking those kinds of punches will hinder your time in that ring. Cotto won't be standing there. He will be on the move. He'll at most stick to a 1-2 and try to counter Margarito.

I'm not tryin to be a dick but I'm just gonna say you aren't ready to step up to me. Not with this retort.

 

This would be a slighty more competitve verison of Antonio Diaz vs Shane Mosley.

 

I'm only going to address this point and leave it here. Because quite honestly you need to take some advice and try to understand these topics better.

You say the knuckle is pivitol to boxing, yet an ankle isn't?

Have you ever sprained your ankle? Do you know how painful it can be to stand on it? Standing let alone fighting on it?

Everything Margarito does is off the backfoot. His whole gameplan involves taking a chance and then leaning back on that backfoot to avoid counters. Look at how he approached the Cintron fights and then look at how he approached the Clottey fight. It is complete night and day. Against guys other than Clottey, Margarito showed ability to step back out of range of counters. Against Clottey he didn't do this. And I think most people here would understand why. It is painful to step back onto a sprained ankle for 12 rounds.

Anyways I can't be bothered with this anymore. I don't care if you think I'm a "wanker" or whatever. Replies like yours are a dime a dozen on this forum. This Margarito-Clottey nonsense has been going on too long. You are a younger guy and probably just into the sport a couple of years so I'm not going to be overly critical. But hopefully someday you'll realize what I'm saying.

 

This is a terrible post.

Obviously a sprained ankle is painful, and yes i have had one myself. Watch the fight though, and his movement wasn't effected. Clotteys punch out put was clearly effected. Obviously the severity of each injury is different, which plays a massive part in what effect they have on the fighter.

You haven't responded to any of my points again. Choosing a much more arbitrary approach saying "you haven't been a boxing fan as long as i have blah blah blah".

Regardless, i'm not going to play childish games. The proof is there in our posts, for anyone that reads them.

Cheers.

 

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margo is good but pls don't test him through mosley..
he'll be exposed

 

Mosley by decision --

 

Thanks. I just did not have a chance to counter with Def. The other two were rediculous. I have to say, you and Def sure did go head to head on something that was taken out of context. Santos is by far no power puncher is all I was saying. Throwing Tyson this and that had nothing to do with my original post. I have to say that I have yet to see the Margarito vs Clottey fight so I don't know how bad the sprained ankle was. Like I said, I would fight with a hurt knuckle, but a sprained ankle would be worse. Again, I did not see the fight so I don't know if the ankle got hurt during the fight or before the fight. Anyways, like I said, those two cheerleaders got to me a little. All these posts will be answered come fight night. When Margarito loses, maybe he can finally rematch Santos again or build his ego by knocking out Cintron the robot again.

 

If they fought now, Margarito by KO.

If Margarito fought the 2000 Mosley, Mosley by UD.

I don't think Mosley could have been KO'd then, and I don't think Margarito could have outboxed him.

 

You really believe Margarito could KO Mosley now? That would really be a task to accomplish. You never know, maybe they will fight sometime down the road. I just don't see Margarito doing it, but we will see what happens when he fights Cotto.

I just answered you Chavez post.

 

Mosley wins.

Margarito would have his moments because Mosley's style would give openings for Tony. Mosley is aggressive and likes to trade.

However, Mosley is so much faster. He's more coordinated and way more physically gifted. He's also not totally skill-less or that easy to hit. He can be open down the middle, but he had some slick moves in there.

 

Sugar Shane with ease.

Btw this was before Shane took any roids, he took roids (possibly without even knowing it) for the DLH rematch.