Cus D'Amato's Style not used anymore?

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    also the eyes and brains and just the way they could present to and coach a fighter its an art
     
  2. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cus' secrets lie with Teddy Atlas, Kevin Rooney, and Mike Tyson. They need to pass it on, that style is Cus' legacy.

    I learned the nuts and bolts of boxing, how to move, how to punch, how to block, then the 3 coaches would have a chat with us about our physical gifts, and what style we felt would best suit us, after gym hours we'd all stay and watch fight DVD's, pausing to note certain things, footmovements, feints etc. Then we'd work on such things, each guy fighting his own way, a style suited for him.

    Alot of amatuers I see now here in the UK, fight a very basic style, and most fighters from the same gym, have all been taught one style, because trainers do not know anything different to show them.
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    what years did you learn to box in?
     
  4. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm only 19, I started at 9 and went until I was 16 so 2001 until 2008, I still go to the gym and watch, I love boxing at all levels but I can't box myself anymore.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I remember now. You told us you have lots of respect for fighters and injured your hands.
     
  6. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's me :thumbsup I want to teach boxing but there isn't much money in it.
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Keep the dream alive. Even Steward had to temporarily work as an electrician until he went far enough as a trainer and boxing was able to sustain him.:thumbsup
     
  8. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's what I always say about Tyson. Not just the "peek a boo" thing, but everything about his style including the heavy side-to-side head movement & the "punches in bunches" offense. It's not a style that would work well past the age of, say 25, unless a fighter has really unusual genes.

    - That's one main reason you can't judge Tyson by his later fights. (along with the loss of Rooney, the influence of King, and his own personal demons.)
     
  9. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    :deal

    Check a early Mike Tyson fights.... the reaction speed w/ the bob & weave style was PHENOMENAL!
    vs Michael Jack Johnson, 8th fight
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwn53RU4p9Y[/ame]

    the set-up for the first KD was amazing!

    around 220lb, Mike Tyson was at his best. He was light, fast, and very explosive. After Don King purchased him, changed up some of the management, plus personal life probs, Mike Tyson's discipline to the high energy defense style went DOWNHILL..... He proffered a token defense but used his intimidating notoriety as defense.... Elites starting to mark him up and he looked more vulnerable and vulnerable....
     
  10. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Patterson and Tyson are the youngest Heavyweight champions.
    Patterson became champion at 21 and lost to Liston at 27.
    Tyson became champion at 20 and lost to Douglas at 24 and again to Holyfield at 29.
    I bring this up because it seems that the D'Amato system requires a lot of movement. Something that is a lot easier for someone who is young to do than someone who is older. In otherwords it is a style that can't be sustained througout an entire career.
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    Cus wanted Rooney to train Tyson, not Atlas..............