Darnell Wilson vs. David Haye

Yeah, pretty close to bull**** that argument. What was it, his 12th fight? Not many fighters grow the balls to go into a fight like that so early.

 

I swear it was the best thing to ever have happened to him, he was arrogant & thought he could do anything. Even he said he's grateful he experienced it, woke him up

 

:thumbsup That said, he talked very well of thompson before the fight.

 

Yeh, he's always been a respectful man, but before the fight it was believed his own hype type of arrogance. He's a lot more grounded now.:thumbsup

 

Haye is too much for Ding

 

Ding always has a real chance with his power, against anyone. Thats what makes him so exciting to watch, the best "boxer" doesn't always win... this ain't the armatures.

 

You obviously havent seen Hayes power have you.....:-( ?

 

Of course, Holyfield's been stopped, his chin wasn't titanium. Ding's power is enough to topple over mountains!

 

i pick ding here. he got power and a chin.

gaye only has a punch.

ding by brutal ko.

 

It's getting ridiculous, isn't it. atsch

A number of things need pointing out.

1. This was Haye's eleventh fight. He'd stopped everybody within 4 in his previous 10 and tried to do the same here. He was gassed and has learnt from it - it's no longer an issue.

2. Carl Thompson may have been ancient but he could still bang. That's like criticising Moorer for getting stopped by an ancient Foreman.

3. His whiskers may be shaky, but they're not glass. His corner threw in the towel while Haye was on his feet, a little wobbly but still trying to throw back; he wasn't KO'd.

4. If boxing was as simple as picking against the guy with the shaky chin, I'd be a milllionaire. Saying he'd lose because the other guy can punch is stupid. Look at Wlad, he's the best HW around right now. The aforementioned china-chinned Moorer did alright in beating your boy Holyfield too, Zakman.

Anyway, for me, Haye's got height, reach, speed and a superior skill set on his side. If he wants to, he can jab his way to a win. I also think he's got superior power in this match up so isn't going to be without a weapon if he gets rushed. Not ruling out Wilson entirely though, he's got the power to worry anybody in the division.

On a different note, I think it's ridiculous that a guy gets so much abuse for stepping up his comp early and losing. He's come back and is on the verge of being linear champ after 21 fights, that's not something many can boast of.

You all cry about fighters being protected and fighting bums but is it surprising? If somebody like Haye looks for challenges, makes fights and loses, he gets crucified for it so what's the point? His old school mentality should be applauded.

 

If youre going to make you're arguments like that don't bother posting again, nobody wants to read ''hilarious'' **** like that

 

Haye by decision or Ding by late stoppage...can't pick

 

At HW, Haye by stoppage. At CW, Ding by stoppage.

Haye is way better fully refreshed at HW, where as dropping to 200 takes a lot out of him.

Ding by KO.

 

EXACTLY. The people who bash him aren't real boxing fans i feel though, they are just sad pessimistic ****s. We're not claiming he's superman, but he has balls of steel, more so than any other fighter from cruiser to heavy, you all moan about it not being like the old days yet Haye is the one of the only ones that has the attitude of previous generations.