David Haye vs RJJ - Prime - Cruiserweight/Heavyweight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by freddieMaize, Dec 15, 2012.

Page 1 of 2
  1. freddieMaize

    freddieMaize Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Messages:
    1,493
    Likes Received:
    6
    Who do you think will be better? Poll added.

    Both are quick. I like them both.
     
    freddieMaize, Dec 15, 2012
    #1
  2. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    5,270
    Likes Received:
    246
    I acually see David haye knocking Roy out tbh.

    Remember when RJJ was in the heavyweights he wasn't at his best.
    Can't see Roy knocking David out.
     
    Ahurath, Dec 15, 2012
    #2
  3. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2010
    Messages:
    13,207
    Likes Received:
    11
    Haye knocks him out in a brutal manner
     
    Vidic, Dec 15, 2012
    #3
  4. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    9,773
    Likes Received:
    3
    brutal ko. that American glass gets shattered.
     
    Arran, Dec 15, 2012
    #4
  5. I am tyler

    I am tyler Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    1
    Would say David Haye easily. More power, and very fast at those weights. It was ok to beat Ruiz, who is slow and plodding, but he wouldn't beat Haye at those weights.
     
    I am tyler, Dec 15, 2012
    #5
  6. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,846
    Likes Received:
    12
    Did you see what happened when Jones got hit by Glen Johnson!? This fight would be sanctioned slaughter. There's a reason why Jones and his team carefully selected Ruiz, then went straight back down to LHW, without facing a top HW
     
    knockout artist, Dec 15, 2012
    #6
  7. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    8,710
    Likes Received:
    27
    http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content7276.html

    Roy planned on fighting Lewis/Holyfield/Tyson at that time.
    He didn't cherry pick, he was ready to fight them.
     
    dyna, Dec 15, 2012
    #7
  8. I am tyler

    I am tyler Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    1
    He said that, but no way in hell he would have actually done that.
     
    I am tyler, Dec 15, 2012
    #8
  9. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    8,710
    Likes Received:
    27
    Roy was feeling very high and he totally dominated Ruiz like nobody ever did again. (Maybe except Tua)
    If he felt he could toy with Ruiz, I don't doubt he would have fought the old Tyson.
     
    dyna, Dec 15, 2012
    #9
  10. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2009
    Messages:
    8,231
    Likes Received:
    11
    Holyfield and Tyson both would have favored Jones. Tyson punches hard and has quick hands but is easy to hit and at that time Jones was almost impossible to hit. Holyfield would have been toyed with even worse than what James Toney did.

    I think Haye could pose a challenge due to his reach but I don't think his power would do him any good because he wouldn't land anything.
     
    Boxmaster, Dec 15, 2012
    #10
  11. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,846
    Likes Received:
    12

    Holyfield and Tyson were completely shot to ****, they would have been cherry picks and meaningless fights

    Roy and Murad can say whatever nonsense they want, there's no way whatsoever that Roy would have fought Lennox Lewis
     
    knockout artist, Dec 15, 2012
    #11
  12. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    5
    Haye is a career cruiser/heavy and is known to be very fast for a heavy. Roy was a career 160-175 fighter and never truly showcased his speed by beating plodding Ruiz. We can't really know how fast Roy was at HW and how hard he hit but I'd probably favour Haye because he's a fast HW with good pop. P4P, Roy
     
    moneypaysbills, Dec 15, 2012
    #12
  13. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2011
    Messages:
    8,781
    Likes Received:
    20
    Jones would not need to go up to Heavy. Being outweighed by 20 lbs is useful. Better for his reflexes. LHW Roy on fight Night was 185 or so. He beats any version of Cruiserweight Haye...and it's easy work. Way faster, way smarter. Might even KO him.
     
    SouthpawJab, Dec 15, 2012
    #13
  14. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    16,769
    Likes Received:
    32
    Haye is too big, fast and explosive for RJJ.
     
    Mind Reader, Dec 15, 2012
    #14
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    42,084
    Likes Received:
    11,458
    Loudon, Dec 15, 2012
    #15
Page 1 of 2