David Tua vs Rocky Marciano

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  1. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fans of certain fighters are inherently biased.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    Hard call. I want to start off by saying that Marciano had far more guts, stamina, and activity. I don't think Marciano would lose to cute boxers like Tua did to Byrd, lose to Rhaman, or opt to play it safe in a title match vs Lennox Lewis. But all of the above fighters had skills and jab to keep Tua at arms length. Rocky did not.

    In a brawl between punchers, I prefer the man who hit harder and takes the better shot. This is a dangerous fight for Marciano. In my judgment, Tua hit harder and took a better punch. I'll reluctantly go with Tua to win via TKO, but it would not surprise me if Rocky’s indomitable will earns him a decision by making Tua passive.
     
  3. KTFO

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    Yes. If certain fighters have a matchup with equal opposition or stuff. But Marciano-nuthuggers are something special. They are the comic strip artists, the illusionists.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Marciano,tua has a greaat chin but Id like to see him take punishment to the body he is allways up to 20lbs overweight,whatever anyone says about genetic disposition,je has flab around his chest ,hips ,belly and legs.I think we saw the real Tua when he fought Lewis,after sampling a few rights he opted for survival not winning,he has a great left hook ,so did Rocky ,he also had a more than fair right hand!
     
  5. janitor

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    I think you will find that the Marciano detractors are a far worse than the Marciano fans.

    Some of those jokers hate Marciano to the point of obsesion. Litteraly.
     
  6. Jack

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    Just out of interest, people mention Marciano's punch output, but wouldn't Tua at his best, vs. Ibeabuchi, land more? That fight broke the record for puches at heavyweight, as did Ibeabuchi, but Tua was right behind him.

    I take it this does not include fights pre-Compubox, but it's still impressive for Tua. Would the average Marciano fight have had more punches thrown than what Tua was capable of?

    What was Marciano's record over 12 rounds?
     
  7. McGrain

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    To be absolutley honest, I don't know the answer to this question.

    But I do remember Dr.Z (remember him?) doing a pretty detailed analysis and he found that whilst Marciano's average punch stats may not have been quite as hight as people would expect, his busiest rounds were absolutley insane, of the charts.

    Worth baring in mind that Z really had a dislike for Marciano and had bitter, bitter disputes with Q about that fighter.
     
  8. janitor

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    Marciano never fought a 12 round fight so his punch output would assume either a 10 or 15 round fight.

    His punch output actualy increased significantly after he won the title. Against Joe Walcott he averaged about 40 punches per round while against Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore he averaged more like 80 punches per round. His highest output for a single round was about 120 in the first Charles fight.

    In summary yes Tua could match Marciano's best punch rate for a 10 or 15 round fight over 12 rounds.
     
  9. mcvey

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    Plus every thing Marciano threw was hard ,from both mitts!
     
  10. mcvey

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    I think Marciano has better stamina than Lewis and a better chin,but how a man performs aginst one fighter is a very unreliable form book to measure him against another,the discussion is Marciano v Tua ,I beleive.
     
  11. KTFO

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    Yes. We were just talking about a KO possibility by Marciano that wouldn't happen because of Marciano lacking enough power for Tua's chin.
     
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  12. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    When a fighter like Rahman can KD Tua, I bet Marciano could do it,too...


    get real, boy
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Common Luigi. Do you really expect fact to get in the way of KTFO's making a good retort?
     
  14. KTFO

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    Tua was hit by a punch after the bell that drove Tua to the ropes. Just tell the facts how they really are, boy.

    And don't dare to provoke a fight with me cause I'd beat you heavily.
    Same goes for Magoo.
     
  15. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    :D

    You´re right!