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Debunking the myth: RJJ never took PED's

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Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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bodyopus said: ↑

Andro wasn't in Ripped Fuel. It had Ma*Huang(Ephedra), Guarana seed(Caffeine), Chromium, L-Carnitine.

I believe later there was a version called Andro Ripped Fuel which added andro(It's been a long time, can't remember). I know there was also a NorAndro Ripped Fuel that added Norandrostenedione
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You're probably right. I remember barely. Long times go lol

Matt in a hat, Dec 5, 2014

Matt in a hat, Dec 5, 2014

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general zod World Champion Full Member

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If a fighter does not want their legacy to be tainted then they really should keep away from steroids. On the other hand the fact that America didn't even start testing for steroids until 2002 is just shocking

general zod, Dec 7, 2014

general zod, Dec 7, 2014

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Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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VG_Addict said: ↑

Every time someone makes a thread about Roy Jones, it turns into a debate over whether or not he was a PED cheat, and who he did or didn't fight in his prime.
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Simple solution, don't fail drug tests and fight everyone the fans request.

Bollywooden, Dec 7, 2014

Bollywooden, Dec 7, 2014

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DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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DryIrishStump said: ↑

Roy was on steroids. It's a fact. A hidden fact, but a fact nonetheless.
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That doesn't make any sense. An opinion is a fact? Do you know something that we don't know?

Clottey threw his fight with Pacquaio. It's a fact. A hidden fact, but a fact nonetheless.

DirtyDan, Dec 7, 2014

DirtyDan, Dec 7, 2014

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Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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DirtyDan said: ↑

That doesn't make any sense. An opinion is a fact? Do you know something that we don't know?

Clottey threw his fight with Pacquaio. It's a fact. A hidden fact, but a fact nonetheless.
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Well it is a fact, he failed a drug test for anabolic steroids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvyHgqcReQs

They came up with the ripped fuel explanation as cover weeks later.

Bollywooden, Dec 7, 2014

Bollywooden, Dec 7, 2014

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Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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Roy Jones Did Test Positive, Steroids

Here is our exclusive interview.

Boxinginsider.com: Did Roy Jones test positive after his fight against Richard Hall?

Jacob Hall: “Both of them did. Roy Jones tested positive for steroids. He was five or six times over an acceptable level. Hall was about ten times above an acceptable level. He didn’t mention that in his interview (the now infamous interview of July 18 with Bragging Rights Corner and Doghouse Boxing).

A letter was sent to both (Jones and Hall). The Indiana Boxing Commission followed up – I talked to Jones’ people and said we were going to declare the fight a no-contest, suspend and fine him. And at that time, Jones’ attorney Fred Levin and the Indiana Attorney General’s office got involved.

Indiana has no law on drug testing as probably the majority of the states in the U.S. do not. The drug testing company sent us the results. Most states that don’t have drug testing laws, the test results go back to the sanctioning bodies. I think most people are surprised at that. What do the sanctioning bodies do when they get positive test results? Suspend? Fine? They didn’t in this case. And there’s no way you’re going to know about it.

Through his attorney, Jones admitted he had been taking an over-the-counter product called Ripped Fuel. That’s not illegal but it is an anabolic steroid according to the IBF and other other sanctioning bodies.

Boxinginsider.com: So he did test positive. He did take Ripped Fuel?

Whether that’s what he took or not we don’t know, but he did test positive and admitted to taking a steroid.

The IBF chose to do nothing. They wanted a second test to be done. But why take a second test when he failed the first one and admitted to taking a steroid? That’s where it ended.

No action was taken. Nobody did anything.

We couldn’t take action (because there is no drug testing law in the state of Indiana) but what we agreed to was before his next two fights, Roy Jones would submit the results to more drug tests to Indiana. One fight was in Louisiana and those results were negative. And the other was in California, and those results were negative.

What surprised me about this is that the IBF chose not to do anything. And I have documents…what I’m saying, I can back-up. So I’m not concerned with that.

Roy Jones’ people were very cooperative and very easy to work with to reach a settlement. Also, I did tell Roy Jones that there are some amateur boxing clubs here in Indiana and he did send a check in the amount of $250 for the Indianapolis PAL.”

Boxinginsider.com: How many people have called you since the Richard Hall interview?

Jacob Hall: “Brad Jacobs, now an advisor for Jones, and a reporter from some paper in France, and that was it. Brad Jacobs called to verify if the facts were true about Roy failing the test. He wasn’t involved with Roy Jones back in 2000. He just wanted to know what the facts were, like you.”

Boxinginsider.com: Wow, that’s hard to believe – that only one media outlet from France has called you about this.

Jacob Hall: “All I saw on any of the websites was that Murad Muhammad said Roy Jones tested positive for take some (nasal decongestant). But that was innaccurate. This was not a nasal decongestant.”

Boxinginsider.com: Does the state of Nevada have a law on drug testing?

Jacob Hall: “Yes. Most states do not. Nevada does have drug testing. I think most people are surprised at that…they think all boxers are tested. For some time I’ve tried to get a law passed similar to Nevada but we haven’t got that done yet. If the sanctioning bodies choose not to take action, there isn’t a lot the state commissions can do. That’s why I’m in favor of a Federal Commission like the one Senator John McCain is proposing.”
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:deal

Bollywooden, Dec 7, 2014

Bollywooden, Dec 7, 2014

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general zod World Champion Full Member

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Bollywooden said: ↑

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Braggingrights.com had a lot of interviews about the matter but it's been taken down now.

general zod, Dec 7, 2014

general zod, Dec 7, 2014

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His "ripped fuel" excuse was just like Shane Mosely's claim to have passed a lie detector test concerning his EPO steroid abuse. Looked good till his name & signature appeared on BALCO receipts then he had to come clean LOL Both cheated both should have been banned from boxing

C.J., Dec 7, 2014

C.J., Dec 7, 2014

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lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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Peppermint said: ↑

He got "busted" ONCE for taking Ripped Fuel, which only cuts your body up faster. It is a fat burner. It does not enhance abilities or build muscle. It is not a steroid of any kind. This stuff was sold at local 7-Elevens's and other convenience stores. Walgreens still sells it, and it is still over the counter. It amazes me how so many so called fans fabricate stories and paint some athletes as scheming drug cheats, when that is not the case.
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Doesn't enhance? Why take it then? If something is banned it's cheating.....period

lefthandlead, Dec 7, 2014

lefthandlead, Dec 7, 2014

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Through his attorney, Jones admitted he had been taking an over-the-counter product called Ripped Fuel. Thats not illegal but it is an anabolic steroid according to the IBF and other other sanctioning bodies.

Boxinginsider.com: So he did test positive. He did take Ripped Fuel?

Whether thats what he took or not we dont know, but he did test positive and admitted to taking a steroid.
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According to the IBF they agreed that ripped fuel was a steroid but not illegal than they don't know what he took but he did test positive for a steroid :huh what ?

Agrees to testing in his next couple of fights and comes up clean ..

Ripped fuel was used more as a fat burner ..I really don't know how fat burners make you faster or make you punch harder ..But yeah he need that to win

Imperial1, Dec 7, 2014

Imperial1, Dec 7, 2014

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Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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Peppermint said: ↑

He got "busted" ONCE for taking Ripped Fuel, which only cuts your body up faster. It is a fat burner. It does not enhance abilities or build muscle. It is not a steroid of any kind. This stuff was sold at local 7-Elevens's and other convenience stores. Walgreens still sells it, and it is still over the counter. It amazes me how so many so called fans fabricate stories and paint some athletes as scheming drug cheats, when that is not the case.
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Roy had some of the best natural athleticism money could buy.

Rock0052, Dec 7, 2014

Rock0052, Dec 7, 2014

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Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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DryIrishStump said: ↑

I've said plenty about it doofus
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Doofus?

Not in response to what I've wrote you haven't.

John Hivley's post was inaccurate and not in any way objective.

Loudon, Dec 7, 2014

Loudon, Dec 7, 2014

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