Dempsey vs Marciano

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Dempsey was one of the fastest heavyweights in terms of hand speed imo. Marciano one of the slowest. Literally no comparison whatsoever.
     
  2. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True. Sharkey stated as such in later years....that Dempsey was much quicker.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hope there wasn't much because the "computer" aspect was just a marketing gimmick.

    Murray Woroner was a Miami radio personality who also produced radio shows. When he saw an ad for a new computer, he made up the whole shtick about feeding information into a computer to get the outcomes of fights.

    The NCR 315 computer was basically a word processor and a calculator. Really large businesses used them for accounting purposes and to store financial records on punch cards instead of in filing cabinets.

    Since basically nobody knew what a computer did in the 1960s, other than it sounded "futuristic" and men and children were playing robots on TV, Woroner got away with his promotion.

    Woroner just wrote radio scripts of fights and produced a series of radio shows that he sold to others. Then he made the movie with Ali and Marciano.

    The computer aspect was a marketing gimmick to sell a fantasy boxing series on the air, because it wouldn't have been as big a seller if someone said "a Miami morning DJ" wrote and produced a fantasy boxing series.

    They radio series has as much merit as a poster on this board writing down how he thought a fight between Dempsey and Marciano would go and then posting it on Youtube.
     
  4. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hope you don’t believe the merit of these computer fight broadcasts are the “fights” themselves???

    There are tons of comments from past champions/experts etc and THESE are the value of these recording. Obviously. We even get a chance to hear Willard voice his thoughts! Talk about rare.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good Lord. Yes, I'm fully aware John L. Sullivan isn't fighting Jim Braddock. (LOL).

    I'm pointing out that there was NO computer aspect. It was a marketing gimmick. That's all I was pointing out ... in case someone actually believed a "computer" provided the results.

    The computer mentioned was a 5,000 pound calculator. That's all. Saying a "computer" provided the results gave it a "futuristic" feel (in the 1960s) and a sense that the results weren't some guy's opinion ... when, in fact, that's all they were, some guy's opinions.
     
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  6. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hope no one is listening to these for the “computer” aspect. Here we have among 15 or so audio tapes many past hwt champions providing opinions. This is what makes these tapes so interesting. A gold mine really.
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Vicious vicious fight and no one in HW history is more vicious than Dempsey.
    Dempsey wins. Dempsey is the natural born killer.
     
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  8. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I typically turn off the recording once the “fight” starts. I’m only interested in the commentary. It’s a gold mine.
     
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  9. Grapefruit

    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    Neither were boxers really, they were creme of the crop street fighters, this would be a bloody battle. I'd give the edge to Dempsey, had more speed and size on the rock.
     
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  10. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The dempsey -louis computer bout was the best one and well done
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Ahh... Dempsey Marciano threads really dredge up the prime intellgencia of the board.

    Don't truat the veracity of computer fights... Wow. Really? The things I learn here
     
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