Deontay W deserves at least 40%

So Wilder could earn less in this fight which many would argue is harder fight than the 'easier' fight vs Whyte where he was offered $8 mil.

That alone encapsulates the cluster**** which the management of Wilder is.

Remember a KO win over Whyte would of gave him his biggest payday to date and then a fight vs AJ earning double of that minimum.

 

You're right but there's a slightly more intangible benefit that Wilder brings which isn't reflected in the raw numbers. Whatever his failings to fully engage the US market, Wilder is that rare commodity, a top level US heavyweight with a prestigious title. Couple that with his KO highlight reel and his mouth and you have someone who could offer AJ the perfect entry into the US market, not just for that fight but potentially for many more through the rest of his career.

Once that fight is announced then AJ's pre-existing fame and belts PLUS Wilder PLUS effective marketing could propel the fight way beyond what Wilder's existing figures suggest. If Wilder gets beaten or retires there's no-one else out there who is likely to offer this, although Miller may offer a weak secondary option.

Now all that potential upside is difficult to put a figure on, so when you're calculating his worth it may be overlooked, but I think Team Wilder would be justified in saying that their man's value isn't fully accounted for in his existing figures.

 

There's no shortage of people who would say he took the correct, reasonable and righteous decision though!
How many other fighters have to out-earn Wilder before he realises?
Parker, Whyte, AJ, Chisora....all fighting more regularly, earning more money and entertaining the public more than the 4-year WBC champ.
It's not some conspiracy against Wilder FFS, he's just taken poor decisions.
Miller will probably get more money and respect with a WBA reg strap in 18 months than Wilder has managed thus far in his whole career!
Mis-management of collosal proportions.
Or is the entire division 'ducking'....?

 

This

 

Nah, Miller can be built to a higher profile and used as AJs American baptism easily.
Wilder may pose a decent threat in a hypothetical match-up but, so what?
That fact and his rambling, bombastic musings don't amount to an awful lot in terms of revenue so he's getting offered what he deserves.

 

Possibly, I assumed Miller was going to be Joshua's introduction to the US market, kind of like a soft opening, to build interest before the full opening vs Wilder.

But what you are saying might be true and Miller is Hearn's reserve option should Wilder either lose or continue to refuse to make the fight. He could get Miller to win the WBA regular belt and then try and market him as the next big US heavyweight. Miller has already beaten 2 previous Wilder opponents and beaten them more convincingly so if Hearn is smart and keep doing this he sets a narrative that Miller is the better US heavyweight title holder.

 

I reckon you're right.
Wilder has fallen for the bogus philosophy that losing your 'O' affects your earning potential more than anything.
Unfortunately, he's learning the hard way that fighting poor opposition actually does more harm long term.
Look at Chisora FFS, 7 losses or more and he's earning more than Wilder. Wilder should be asking some serious questions of his management imo but he seems to think they can do no wrong!

 

Miller's certainly being built with an eye to an eventual clash with AJ. If I were Eddie Hearn I'd still see Wilder as offering the better springboard to making AJ a star in the US. Miller can fight AJ on DAZN and help drive some sign ups but I don't see it as a break thru fight, Wilder has a much greater potential upside.

So poll a hundred US fight fans on if they'd sooner see AJ vs Wilder or AJ vs Miller? Ask them which would be the better fight, which has the least predictable outcome? If that fight is announced it may begin to pick up real traction. Especially with a hostile opposing management team and the past history all of which will be spun by either side.

It's just a far, far bigger fight and it will generate the kind of noise that gets casual fans asking who these guys are and maybe this is a fight worth watching. Those are the fans that turn a big fight into a huge one. Star in a huge fight in the US, perform well and say all the right things in build-up and post match and AJ's earning capacity skyrockets.

 

I agree, Wilder today is a more lucrative match-up for AJ.....but let's see what's what come Dec 2nd. Miller might well be the money fight if he beats a marquee name between now and summer, and Wilder get's schooled by Fury...
I think people are, in general, over stating the difference between AJ fighting the #1 contender and knocking over a random Joe. As a fan, I'd rather see best Vs best but AJ has the best resume at HW so it's on potential opponents to stake their claim.

 

he deerved 40% on the scorecards but he got more.

 

He's getting nothing if he loses to Fury ( Again )

If people knew about business they wouldn't decline over 8 times their pay and after getting saved by the bell vs Ortiz last year ( would think it gave him a reality check ) in which were at 40% now on a robbery too and he's still holding out.

By your logic someone would be living in a cardboard box and would have lost it all....of course in the business world. Lucky for Wilder he has judges that decided his fate so far and that's not gonna last either..... Lol

 

The best business would be to take the 40% off AJ, much bigger payday than another Fury fight and for all the belts.
One Face One Champ

He's only going to schooled again by Fury anyway

I hope Wilder knows business but I'm not sure how much ducks know about finances

 

He'd likely lose to AJ though and once the belt is gone he's all but done. Whereas Fury lacks KO power and Team Wilder dictate the scorecards if Wilder can't land sufficiently over another twelve rounds.

If he can beat him in a higher profile fight he could bank another year of comedy WBC defences at a much higher rate of return before he rolls the dice in London.