Deontay Wilder & Harry Greb

All I can say is that I asked Klompton a rather obscure question on Greb's ancestry once and you better believe that he knew his lineage backwards. He seems rather obsessed with Greb, but in this instance it's a good thing, because if there's something to know about Harry, Klompton knows it. No doubt the book will be well researched to say the least.

 

mcvey, I haven't endorsed or defended it, I've just mentioned that it got good reviews ,[on Amazon] I made it clear

Maybe you should review your previous posts on the subject for a guy who never read it and wont buy it you sure seem to like it, makes me wonder why wont you buy it?
To me honest, he did bring to light for alot of people including myself how great a fighter Harry Greb, was. Before I came on this forum, all I knew about Greb, was he beat Tunney and Mickey Walker and was blind in one eye. Now OMG.

I haven't read it.Have you?

You asked me this before so I will give you the same reply, No, I haven't and wont either. The author, seems to be heavy on agenda, exaggeration, cherry picks, spins, leaves out relevant facts to make his point and that's on this forum. He seems not to understand boxing and how the business/politic's affect a boxers career. An example he damn well knows why Dempsey never fought Greb or Wills and it has nothing to do with ducking. it's there in the 1000's of articles but he chooses his spin on things and whining how Dempsey ducked them both.
His last post on another thread was laffable, concerning Jack "clutch n Grab" Johnson beating Joe jennette, but he fails to post relevant facts, such as Jennette's inexperience, Johnson on his own words concerning that provides a different side and more relevant take, cherry picking at it's best. He didnt even know what a contract was. His take on the Shelby fight was comical.
All this on this forum, so now tell me why I should read his book. Many authors come on here, Springs Toledo, Pollack, Moyle and post, compare their posts to this author's posts. I give credit where credit is due he does post some excellent and informative posts, but at other times, it's like "How dare you question me"


It was also shortlisted for the Man Booker Prize.
"Man Booker International Prize Shortlist 2017"

For an indifferent sort you claim to be you know alot about him.

I've no plans to buy it and if I did I would not require a discount.

well if you did, it would be nice.

Keep your personal animosity towards Klompton to yourself

Why are you always defending him, same thing in the Jennette thread, I was addressing him and you picked up the gauntlet. He left you hi & dry. FYI, he started with the personal stuff, and I respond in kind

I'm just trying to give Joff Joff a heads up,don't be so childish.

Wait, you post something and I reply to it and I am childish, ok, if you say so. Maybe I was doing the same thing giving JJ a heads up.

JJ, seriously buy the book it is by all accounts full of information on Greb's career. I tell you this my battles with the author opened a new world to me, cos it caused me to do my own research. If you havent done it do so, first hand reports from scribes and people who actually seen them and in a lot cases knew personally. BTW, it's an excellent way to pass the time, highly recommend checking out Newspaper archives.

 

I neither like or dislike it I haven't read it so how could I give an opinion on it? I merely passed on the opinions that others gave in their reviews of it on Amazon.
Which is what Joff Joff asked for.
The fact it was short listed for the Booker Prize is in the reviews of the book, it's in the public domain, not in any secret info I have about him.
If you had bothered to read the reviews you would know this, but you were in too much of a hurry trying to score a pathetic point off of me, a point that backfired spectacularly on you, because it exposed your petty ,mean spirited
spite to public scrutiny
I don't defend Klompton , I've had more knock down drag out rows and arguments with Klompton than just about anybody here ,including you.
I just happen to agree with him on this occasion that Jeannette is overated, in my particular case, I would qualify that by prefacing it with" slightly."
I could not give a flying f*ck how you and Klompton get along /or don't .It's none of my concern.

He didn't leave me anywhere, I don't need anyone to assist me in fighting my own corner or putting my personal point of view across.

 

"mcvey, I neither like or dislike it I haven't read it so how could I give an opinion on it? I merely passed on the opinions that others gave in their reviews of it on Amazon.
Which is what Joff Joff asked for.

The fact it was short listed for the Booker Prize is in the reviews of the book, it's in the public domain, not in any secret info I have about him.

I agree it's no secret but I would say most people wouldnt have known this.

If you had bothered to read the reviews you would know this, but you were in too much of a hurry trying to score a pathetic point off of me, a point that backfired spectacularly on you, because it exposed your petty ,mean spirited
spite to public scrutiny

One thing, I am not trying to score points, I am asking why do you leave relevant facts out and only post what supports your POV. Well since this is a forum I post an opposing view, people then can decide which they support.

I don't defend Klompton , I've had more knock down drag out rows and arguments with Klompton than just about anybody here ,including you.

How does that mean anything?

I just happen to agree with him on this occasion that Jeannette is overated, in my particular case, I would qualify that by prefacing it with" slightly."

I could not give a flying f*ck how you and Klompton get along /or don't .It's none of my concern.

I didnt say you should give a flying fk.

He didn't leave me anywhere, I don't need anyone to assist me in fighting my own corner or putting my personal point of view across.

That's great but like on this thread I am addressing you on the Jennette thread I was addressing him.

Again, how many times now I am explaining the same thing, why should I read the reviews when I have no interest in it and I gave my reasons. In my last post I said the book was informative and recommended to JJ.

 

1.Anyone who has read the reviews would know it.
2. I don't care if anyone supports my POV or not, it's just my POV ,they can please themselves ,I'm not in the business of trying to convert anybody to my POV.
3. It means that I am neither his partner nor his friend which you keep referring to me as.
4. Why mention him?
5.If you have no interest in it why post on the thread? It's just silly and contradictory , trying to get your shots in.

 

I'm the sort who would be inclined to buy the book, but the author has been so much of a dick on this board that I wouldn't be inclined to put money in his pocket.

 

I would agree that he isn't exactly fan friendly!

 

Smart man, exactly

 

You can be an arshole in my book if you are a valuable contributor.

In software they call them mavericks.

 

I don't dispute that he contributes to the board when not being a complete tool ... and I value those contributions.

I dispute any idea that you have to be a dick to have meaningful discourse on this or any other forum. Ideally, we should all treat others with respect not because of who they are, but because of who we are, or who we aspire to be. It's not that hard.

But I'm not going to put money into his pocket if he can't interact with a smidgen of civility.

 

Rez that enables him to a bigger @sshole notice I didnt pan his book I blasted him. There is no reason to act the fool with posters who come on here are trying to soak up some boxing history. So as Saintpat said a little civility which crapper doesnt even know what that is.

 

OK....back to the matter at hand....Wilder lands a huge right hand on Grebb and
knocks him out by the 8th round.

And there will be film on this Grebb fight.

 

A comical thread in response to an equally comical topic. Cant see wilder even with a suspect chin getting stopped by a middleweight. Wilder tko by 6th

 

Just a question did Greb ever fight a guy with the size and power of Wilder???
I know Greb never fought anybody like Dempsey. Cos this really is a stretch, a 5'8 SMW at best and 6'7 230pd HW.