Deontay Wilder will never be the real HW champion unless he fights and defeats Anthony Joshua

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Never said they were the same and he's right that Saturday will crown a lineal and ring champ. I never disputed that , however he can't admit that Saturday won't crown an Undisputed Champ.
     
  2. Special one

    Special one Active Member Full Member

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    So Fury went from unranked to a top 2 guy in the division by drawing with Wilder and beating Shwarz and Wallin!! Lol if that doesn't tell you how wrong it is to say this is the fight that decides the best current HW then just take a look at Wilders resume! Loss is a loss but just because he Doesn't have an 0 don't mean nothing.... everyone knows only by beating Joshua can either man claim to be the real HW champ! This is the warm up for what will be the biggest HW fight in history when Joshua faces the winner!!
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Okay then, we're getting somewhere. So the lineage is the real Heavyweight Championship? I agree.

    But wouldn't that mean then that neither Wilder, or Joshua, have a run of title defences? Yes, yes it would. That means Wilder has NO achievements aside from a DRAW with Fury, 2 wins over an old Ortiz, and a win over an aging, and shot Stiverne. He'll finally have something to brag about when he wins on Saturday.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

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    The winner Saturday is the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION.

    The Ring belt will be presented to the winner designating him as the World Champion, regardless of who wins.

    More than 100 years of boxing history agrees with me.

    On the other hand, you just posted a link of undisputed champions in another thread that included guys who weren't undisputed champions. So I don't think you "value the concept" at all, frankly.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    WINNING the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP would be something to brag about, yes.

    God, this site. I swear.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Stevie Kim weighs in

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  7. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Coming from Chuck 'The most Dangerous man on the planet' Norris, this statement is the truth and is not to be trifled with.
     
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  8. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only injury Dubbleanal has endured is the constantly prolapsing anus from all the riding of Wilders schlong..........the fanboiism is strooooooonnnnnng with this one.
     
  9. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tomorrow's fight is for the lineal title. It is not for the undisputed title. The winner will be No. 1 in the division, followed by Anthony Joshua at No. 2. The winner still needs to fight Joshua in order to prove who is this generation's best HW.

    None of those statements should be in any way controversial.
     
  10. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You've been coming out swinging far more effectively than Beoncay Windy Miller and that is non negotiable.
     
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  11. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's all quite simple for me really. When one man is declared the winner and is presented with ALL FOUR MAIN BELTS, that's the IBF, WBO, WBA and WBC, that man will be the number 1 in the division, the unified, undisputed champion and will also be starting a new lineage. Until then, it's all opinion and speculation.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just that simple? (LOL)

    No one has ever held all four titles at heavyweight. You know that, right?

    There are THREE WBA champions alone, you know that, right? There are two WBC titlists. You know that, right?

    When Fury won three of the belts against Wlad, he was stripped 30 days later by the IBF because he didn't sign to fight Czar Glaskov (remember him?) fast enough. You know that, right?

    You don't need to beat SIX guys to become the heavyweight champion. You never have. Trevor Bryan, Manuel Charr, Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua (and Czar Glazkov and anyone else you want to name) aren't needed.

    * You BEAT the World heavyweight champion and you become the World heavyweight champion.

    * Or, if there's no World heavyweight champion, the top TWO heavyweights fight and the winner becomes champion.

    Saturday's fight checks the boxes.
     
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  13. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you use undisputed as the standard, then we'll hardly *ever* have a champion. Sanctioning body politics should not be the dividing line.

    Wladimir was the man and Fury beat him. And given that Joshua fell a couple spots after Ruiz I, Fury and Wilder took the top two positions. Saturday's winner will determine No. 1.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    **** off.

    The only shlong riding going on are the dipshits who want to throw out 100 plus years of boxing history because Anthony Joshua makes them wet like Logan Paul does for tween girls.

    How long before we get a Joshua/Paul Brothers card from Hearn? You guys will get so wet you'll be sliding off your chairs.

    While you grind one out over the thought of that ...

    The rest of us will watch a fight for WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP Saturday night!

    With that, I put you on ignore.
     
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  15. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everything you say is true but, there is nothing insurmountable to stop the fight from all the belts from happening and it is the only way to put things beyond dispute. If one of the top 3 was to defeat one or both to gain ALL the belts (not including all the interims, silver, diamond belts etc.) that man will be top of the tree and no argument. That's why it's simple, get it?