Deontay Wilder's PPV does very poor numbers

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  1. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  2. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That describes almost all of Fury and Wilder's career.
     
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  3. Simon Head

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    Hope Wilder gains his senses and sets himself up as a fighter in the UK.
    If he gets matched against tough opponents he will get the exposure and money he deserves.

    Unfortunately he should be fighting Fury next, and I think that fight will be the beginning of the end of him, so he’s left it far too late already.
     
  4. Incinerate

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    I'll take criticism of Wilders so called ppv numbers from Joshua's fans over him NOT getting respect from boxing fans. Wilder has plenty of respect and he earns decent coin. Joshua has no respect right now because of his track record. Had Fury not come out of retirement, we'd still be watching the Joshua **** show. You'd still be trying to elevate Joshua with lies and exaggerations. It's a good thing that Ruiz won. That was good for boxing.

    We want true champions who fight each other. We don't want a **** promoter doing all of the financial talking for some stiff coward who doesn't want to unify. Whenever you hear talk from Joshua fans, it's always what Wilder should make or MAKES, not MAKE the fight. Hopefully the boxing Gods bless Ruiz again.
     
  5. Incinerate

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    Whyte is trash. He isn't on any level to speak of. He's a suspect PED user.
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ortiz, Arreola and Stiverne failed PED tests in their careers and that hasn't stopped Wilder from cherry picking them. I wonder why it's a problem when Whyte's name is brought up?
     
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  7. Incinerate

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    Problem? What's the problem? He's trash. Everyone universally recognizes that. He hasn't fought a final eliminator yet. He won't back door his way into a title shot. And the guys that you mentioned all paid the price for failing before they fought Wilder, as will Whyte. Wilder isn't even acknowledging his bum ass. When it's time to fight the bum, it'll happen. All Whyte's bum ass is going to do is refuse the money offered, let it go to a purse bid and try to get the fight at home, and get brutally kod at home.
     
  8. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Nobody wanted that rematch, nobody cared about that rematch, everybody voiced it loudly and clearly enough before it happened and the tickets sales in the lead up to the fight suggested it was not going to do well. Fox and the PBC know the game and know how to read it so they knew it was going to bomb.

    But they have to keep up this narrative that Wilder is the face of American Boxing and is a superstar and they are willing to keep to that narrative even if it is going to cost them millions of Dollars a time. Which is why the Weasel Espinoza passed on this one after having to take the financial hit on the Breazeale fight.It was Fox's turn.

    If thats how they want to play and handle all this then fine, thats up to them, but numbers and eyes dont lie and not much gets past the Internet. Its getting harder than ever to try to fool the public, especially those that know the sport. But its not stopping them trying to convince us Wilder is something he isnt.
     
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  9. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a troll account don't believe it.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Whyte has beaten more top 10 opponents than Ortiz has faced in his career
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    That isn't correct. They've each beaten one and Dillian's win was due to a headbutt called a knockdown and a ref who let him hold in the last round.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Lmao your so bitter

    Rivas > Jennings
    Chisora > Jennings
    Parker > Jennings
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    No, Parker was the only top 5 guy like Jennings and the win was bs.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Top 5? I said top 10.
    And when was Jennings top 5?

    Whyte's résumé is leagues ahead of Ortiz's and we both know it.
    Rivas was top 10 and seen as favourite by some coming in
    Parker was top 5 and was seen as the actual favourite and even if the KD round is a 10-9 it's still a Whyte win and if we're assuming that Whyte would've been stopped in the 12th if the ref didn't give him extra time we can assume Wilder was KOed by Ortiz in the 8th. But he wasn't so...
    Chisora was coming off his best win in tip top shape and Whyte sparked him out cold.

    It must kill you that Lucas Browne not only has a better win than Jennings but a better one than Ortiz as well.
     
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  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Jennings was top 5 when Ortiz beat him. You tried to claim that a guy who wasn't in the top 10 and a fringe guy were better than Jennings. That is false.

    I can't remember if Rivas made the ten spot. But it doesn't matter because (1) you know who the past it fighter he struggled to beat fo get that spot was and (2) it would be an NC under American rules and I don't acknowledge the outdated methods of bboc that are aimed at creating profit over protecting fighters and enforcing rules.