Did Ali have the easiest Heavyweight reign 65'-67'

Very nicely rounded up Bokaj :good Even between his two title reigns,look at the list of opponents Ali fought.

 

well earnie"what's my name" terrell and patterson were the two he wanted to beat badly and made those fights last cuz they kept calling him clay. frazier kept calling him clay when he was in exile. ali didn't like fighters callling him clay

 

at the end of the day ali beat the big punching heavies from when he was young v liston to when he was old v foreman and shavers. frazier was no punching slouch either. ali was never ko'd in a boxing ring against some of the biggest punchers of all time and undefeated before exile. any heavy in history v ali and he has to win on points - not gonna be easy is it lol.

 

One of the easier reigns, thats first one was, but the easiest? Hell no.

Not to mention, yes, he does get credit in that he was so good, he made others look worse than we are.

Other heavyweight champions in history don't necessarily retain the title against the folks that Ali fought 65-67. Do monsters like Foreman, Louis and Holmes make it through? Yes. I'm not sure Johanssen or Braddock, say, do.

 

Louis, Foreman and Holmes would in all likelihood beat the challengers Ali beat, but would they get past Liston when they were in the same stage of their career as Ali/Clay was when he did? I actually wouldn't make any of them favourites against that Liston. Certainly not a pretty green Foreman. Louis would have the best chance IMO, but he was decisively beaten by Schmeling at a similar stage.

I also believe several of these challengers would give Holmes a rocky ride. Lesser fighters than Patterson, Terrell and Folley did. I also think Terrell would have a good chance of bringing Foreman out in pretty deep water.

 

I meant Holmes, Louis and Foreman of their championship reigns having the title run Ali had.

At the relatively young, almost green stage Ali was actually at? Not a single one beats Liston the first time around to win the title.

I said the reign was a tad soft compared to some others. That Ali wasn't primed yet and was just coming into his own as it hit its last year wasn't part of the conversation. Ali is the best, most talented heavyweight ever.

 

I know. I just continued on, found it a bit interesting. It's all very hypothetical, of course, but just as you I don't think many other HWs would have bested that Liston in that stage of their careers. Tyson and Louis being the best bets. Louis looked sublime when defeating Baer and Tyson's destruction of Berbick, Spinks et al was something else.

 

He certainly was the best and most talented. I would challenge anyone to name me another heavyweight champion who equalled Ali's resume. Quality AND quantity wise.

 

The List

1) May 25, 1965..............KO 1........Sonny Liston
2) November 22, 1965......KO 12.......Floyd Patterson
3) March 29, 1966...........W DEC 15...George Chuvalo
4) May 21, 1966..............KO 6.........Henry Cooper
5) August 6, 1966............KO 3.........Brian London
6) September 10, 1966.....KO 12........Karl Mildenberger
7) November 14, 1966......KO 3..........Cleveland Williams
8} February 6, 1967.........W DEC 15...Ernie Terrell
9) March 22, 1967...........KO 7..........Zora Folley

Of the 74 Rounds that Muhammad Ali competed in,,,how many rounds did he lose..??

 

i didn't even have to look to see who bumped this. and the answer is still no