Did Canelo BEAT Golovkin into retirement? WoW Ms. GGG wont let him return...

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  1. Gennady

    Gennady Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo lost against Mayweather, Lara, and Golovkin twice

    His best win is against a past prime Cotto and against an old and washed up Mosley

    If Canelo would be Eastern European no one would give a damn about him, if Golovkin was born as a Mexican probably he would have been the biggest PPV star of all time.
     
  2. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Jeezus it was a bit of comedy centered around reality. He doesn't 'pretend' to be his wife--just hypothetical, tongue in cheek... though thought through...advice. Could be from a big bro, but that's not the OP title. ("though thought through"... I typed that?!...night off and drinks with pals,... but still an odd one)
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    u wanted to be though
     
  4. Bigdog2002

    Bigdog2002 Active Member Full Member

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    GGG is damaged goods. He may be doping up like crazy in an attempt to rejuvenate his body. He is basically retired and not testing at this point. Maybe he feels like he will even up the playing fields and just comeback to fight canelo. GGG was low key scared of canelo
     
  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree with your OPINION! For me, Daniel Jacobs is an 'elite' and Golovkin's failure to KO Jacobs, counts as a failure against an ELITE opponent.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    yuh someone who needs 3 shots to barely squek a vacant belt is elite? give me a break. elite is about being better than world titles.
     
  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Right! So Golovkin failed to KO a non-elite in Daniel Jacobs? Which makes his power seem even worse, since not being able to KO a non-elite is far worse than not being able to KO an elite.

    None of this, changes the main fact here that the two BEST opponents Golovkin faced in Canelo Alvarez and Daniel Jacobs, Golovkin failed to KO them. Your subjective definition of 'elite' here has no relevance.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so what noone kos everyone.

    even if you take away haglers 5 elite opponents, he still didnt ko all, 7 guys went the distance.

    ur evidence is based on him not koing canelo. Is that scientific?
     
  9. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yet, he beat him. Do you believe every elite win needs to be a KO win?
     
  10. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, but I believe someone who's power is rated as highly as Golovkin's, isn't supposed to have 0 knockouts against ANY and EVERY ELITE / TOP TIER opposition.
     
  11. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, but other boxers, that have power less rated than Golovkin's, have KO'ed more top tier opposition. Whilst Golovkin has failed to KO any top tier opposition.

    Is it really too much to ask for from Golovkin to just get one KO, out of 36 rounds against his only top tier opposition in Canelo Alvarez and Daniel Jacobs? That's an insane amount of time to achieve the feat. but still he failed.
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    u dont get it... if they've fought more top quality opps then they have more opportunity to ko more.

    this is basic stats.

    3G has so far fought only one elite. Why dont you wait till he adds 4 or 5 more when hes finished his career?
     
  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm afraid 36 rounds is enough of an opportunity. In fact, I'd say it's an ETERNITY. Think about how many seconds Golovkin has spent in those 36 rounds against his only two top tier opposition without a single KO.

    So I'm afraid your excuses are no longer cutting it at this stage any more!
     
  14. HerolGee

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    ali never koed norton in 45 rounds. some just have a bogeyman.

    u need more than one evidence, but dont be afraid.
     
  15. Luis Fernando

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    TRUE! But I don't ever recall anybody over-hyping Ali's power as much as the hype that GGG's power has received.