Did Collazo Surprise Anyone?

Cheers, I always appreciate some thought provokage.

No, I can't put it down to just the pace. Have you seen Collazo against Hatton and Mosley? He was taking absolutely vicious body shots against Hatton and Mosley, and both of those fights were fought at heart-attack pace. Was there something wrong with Collazo mentally or physically? I can't say, but something was very ****ing off.

 

He still did almost everything better against Hatton and Mosley, but I can dig that. ^

He was clipping both Shane and Hatton non-stop with the right hook from a few feet out. He smothered almost everything he did against Berto. The speed bothered Collazo, but his inability to refocus was pathetic. He let Berto slip away without countering him over and over - and that's nothing like Luis Collazo. I'd go so far as to say he never does that. He was having some issues.

 

I missed the second part of this... Yeah, I do think Collazo was trying to prove a point by going out of his way to 'school' Berto at times - but the problem was Collazo wasn't reshifting mentally when it became obvious he wasn't doing the right things. I would say he seemed doggedly determined. Mindlessly doggedly determined. To be dumb. That is exactly how it looked. Like he was drunk or mad or some ****..

 

He did, yes, but Collazo was still as precise as a Swiss timepiece throughout, and even late in the Mosley fight. To quote again; Shane Mosley said "Collazo is the craftiest fighter I have ever been in the ring with." Collazo was landing ridiculous power punches throughout that fight. If I knew hot to make GIF's I could show you sequences from every round where Collazo did something outrageously nice. Brilliant ****.

 

I think we're onto something. Collazo most certainly did show a lack of regard for Berto - but here again we go back to Collazo's failure to reshift. That's what I found puzzling - Berto isn't exactly a riddle, and he was submitting to whatever Collazo seemed to do.

 

I hear you, in general Mosley isn't the most elusive target - but if you recall he was much sharper in that fight than he had been in years - and we're talking about individual manuevers here; slipping shots and exploding back like a Panther, ect. He wasn't easy to hit whatsoever - nothing like the Cotto fight. He was making Collazo pay for every mistake at Matrix speeds. I pretty much agree with you though, don't get me wrong. The details are significant, however - the details are everything.. Agree with the first part as well.

 

Good exploration. The macho **** was definately happening. Collazo has always been the type to play those games - in the past he did that kind of thing by incorporating more skill and more moves in raising the game. Here he seemed to do just the opposite.

In the 1st, the high on the head, relatively benign left hand Collazo landed woke Berto up to the danger and acclimated his senses, as well as caused him to start countering far better than he would have otherwise at that stage. It was at that point that Berto landed that crunching right that hurt Collazo. That shot wasn't really in Berto's bag then and there, but it came out because of the circumstances. When Berto landed that punch it was hugely significant to the fight. Counter punches like that are what caused Collazo terror in the Mosley fight. Berto managed to get at Collazo's Achilles tendon early in a twist of fate.

Now, if it wasn't for the fact that Collazo came out standing right in front of Berto and not throwing I'd say that might have been the key to it all. On the contrary, Collazo acted like a skitso frenic over the course, throughout, and had all sorts of moments to settle down and find his grove. He never came close to that. It's a geniune mystery very few will ever care about..