Did Dempsey Duck Johnson?

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    There was nothing to avoid.

    Johnson was prety much frozen out of the heavyweight picture after he got out of prison. He could not get fights sanctioned against any of the top contenders including Harry Wills.

    This prevented Johnson from mounting any theoretical claim to be a title challenger.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes I think it is fair to say that Rickard was a major contributing factor to many of the top black challengers not getting title fights and other key matches.
     
  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Isn't there a photo of Dempsey & Wills with an signed contract for a defense.

    Rickard was most likely the problem.
     
  4. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :dealTHIS - great comeback to the fool's who fall for this half-baked bilge about Dempsey being scared of blacks because he was a tiny white guy :lol:
     
  5. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sam Langford, past his best days, begged Jack for a title bout also. Sam would seem to be the fighter Jack regarded the highest, he always said he would have no chance against him.
     
  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Dempsey ducked every fighter except the ones he fought. I thought this was common knowledge already.
     
  7. nahkis

    nahkis Robbed Full Member

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    He destroyed the guy who beat Johnson. It's a bit of a long shot to say he was ducking the forty-something Jack Johnson.
     
  8. Hank

    Hank Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dempsey ha dtop Black hevyweight as sparring partner, and never ducked Wills. As for Jack Johnson, he was washed up by time Dempsey was champ. Many doccumenterys have agenda, and if they said Johnson was ducked by Dempsey, they were lying.
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I must have missed that fight then. :lol:
     
  10. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A bit of fabrication here. Okay,Dempsey like a lot of others at this time,froze out black fighters,which was disgusting. But in this was in Johnson's post Willard career,when he was over the hill. So Dempsey would n't have had any reason to fear him at this point. Johnson was forever talking up a fight between them,but this was just to give himself a bit of publicity.
     
  11. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perhaps, but the Willard of 1919 was not the same Willard of 1915.

    Willard was inactive, older and pretty much out of shape.

    I belive had Dempsey face Willard in 1915, it would have been a longer fight, Not saying Dempsey would lose here, but I think Willard's chances goes up here.