Did pacman get robbed?

Duran seems to have most of these instances.

Its rare.

 

I disagree, but i dont see too many casuals. I think Horn had alot going against him that so called casuals not scoring along round by round would pick up on, he appeared very sloppy and was missing lots of punches to the naked eye, his face got busted up, he was the only man who appeared to be hurt in the fight, Pac had more confident body language and gave the impression of being in control.


Yeah, its not just about how many people live in a country, its how many will spend money on boxing.

 

Pac won a few late rounds.

Horn was the overwhelming aggressor for the rest. Let him have his win.

 

Mainly on Twitter it seem many are parroting some of the commentary but in reality you get that in every fight.

One thing I find a bit strange is Manny get cuts from headbutt on top of head by much taller fighter but Horn's cuts are due to Manny's punching....

If you watch again I think it was round 6 you will see where his damage came from...

As to the body language Manny looked like he wasn't really there and was just having some fun before he got his money...

Well we all look at things with our biases. (me 2)..

 

I like to picture Pacquiao as a modern version of Duran and Floyd as a modern analog of Leonard. I've come to expect them to do really unusual things and just be generally superior in all kinds of ways. While I didn't expect Pac to knock out Horn (those days are long over), but I wasn't putting it out of the realm of possibility, considering I didn't think much of Horn. I sort of expected Horn to be Algieri level or worse.

All this talk of once great fighters getting robbed by bigger younger fighters makes me want to go watch Holyfield vs Valuev or Duran vs Camacho I.

That brings another one to mind. Remember how Whitaker landed a bunch more punches against young Oscar and lost the decision probably because Oscar was throwing harder shots? Whitaker wasn't quite as old as the others, but was supposed to be already past prime, and Oscar being about four inches taller didn't help either. "Whitaker landed 232 of 582 punches to 191 of 556 for De La Hoya. Of Whitaker's punches that connected, 160 were jabs to 45 for De La Hoya." Judges scores were lopsided there too.

• Judge: Chuck Giampa 111-115
• Judge: Jerry Roth 110-116
• Judge: Dalby Shirley 110-116

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Pernell_Whitaker_vs._Oscar_De_La_Hoya

 

Horn won fair and square. I challenge anyone to give me 5 instances where Pac landed a clean power shot outside of the 9th....just give me the time of each round when the shot landed. I've still got the recording to verify.

 

My card is 115-113 win for Manny.

The 117-111 card for Horn is a robbery. Those two 115-113 cards are questionable.

 

116-112 Horn.

I really disagree with anyone who says Pacquiao looked like he was the one controlling the fight. Pacquiao did not not look in control at all at anytime during the fight. Horn was the one forcing the pace and was always the busier guy. I rarely saw Pacquiao actually land anything significant while he was the one being backed up with nowhere to go.

 

No robbery that I saw.....Horn was quite dirty and whatnot but the sad reality is that Pac just didn't find anything close to a groove for the first 6 rds or so.....then when he did he was still inaccurate, clumsy and wild.

Realistically, Pac hasn't looked his best for several fights now and he isn't able to compete at the level many of us expect him to. He is pretty much spent.

 

For the record I had Horn ahead by two rds when the final bell rang.

Didn't hear the Atlas broadcast but how he had Pac up by so many rds is dumbfounding to me.....?

 

pacquiao roughed him up a bit.

i look forward to the rematch (as long as it's not ppv.. otherwise i'll skip it).

 

I'm really surprised by the reaction to be honest. Didn't think it was controversial at all. I had 114-113 Horn. Happy to entertain either guy by a round. The 117-111 card absolutely sucked but I still feel it was the right call for Horn to win. The younger bigger guy roughed up the smaller older guy, it was good tactics from Horn. Not much of what he did was clean but he was the one making Pac uncomfortable in there. Thought it was over after the 9th in all honest, Horn looked done. Fair play to come back from that round though, the kid showed a lot of heart.

I've loved Pac's career but I hope he hangs it up now. I'm sure he has another decent fight in him but I don't wanna see him risk it. Much rather see him lose on points to a seemingly nice guy like Horn than get sparked by some dickhead I hate.

 

Agreed - a close fight with two of the judges giving good scores. Seems like that ninth round made a lot of people forget the rest of the fight.

 

Why do some people seem to think that a close fight which could have gone either way is a robbery. The term robbery should be used for cases like murata vs ndam where it was a clear robbery. Not the pac vs horn fight were it could have gone either way

 

Atlas had Pac winning rounds 2 through 6, which resulted in a lopsided score. He also scored the 9th as a 10-8 round...I don't really have an issue with the 10-8 round but there is no way he won those 5 rounds in a row.