Did Ramos take a dive?

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  1. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fight didn't help Marquez any as a tune up fight to prep him for a Pacquiao fight.
    Of course, it doesn't help that this fighter is a bum.
     
    davebenoit, Jul 16, 2011
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  2. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I wish i suffered from a case of meltybrain too.
     
    Swarmer, Jul 16, 2011
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  3. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can't really say one way or the other, because I wasn't hit with the punch. All I can say is that this Ramos guy, despite apparently holding some tin belt a few years back, couldn't really fight. He was begging to get hit by that right hand.
     
    TheGreatA, Jul 16, 2011
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  4. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    [conspiracymode]Team Pac payed ramos to take a dive to **** up jmm's tune up because they are scared[/conspiracymode]:deal
     
    cesare-borgia, Jul 16, 2011
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  5. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    FACTS:
    -Likar Ramos has been Knocked out before to a 6-9 fighter.
    -JMM hit Ramos with a straight right, a deadly punch from Marquez.
    -It was right on the nose. Take a look at Abraham-Taylor a dead on punch right on the face.
    -JMM wanted to go rounds with a southpaw, why the hell would Marquez want Ramos to take a dive in the first round?

    Not a fact, but a statement:
    Why would JMM need Ramos to take a dive? Ramos isn't near Marquez' level.
     
    DemolitionDan, Jul 16, 2011
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  6. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NO. He got cought with a great 1-2 combo.
     
    ripcity, Jul 16, 2011
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  7. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You might have a point here.
     
    Round1gymDC, Jul 16, 2011
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  8. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ramos's only KO loss was on a bodyshot to Jorge Solis. Not that it means anything but I thought I'd correct that fact.
     
    TheGreatA, Jul 16, 2011
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  9. Money

    Money Boxing Addict Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuAD5elt-Y[/ame]
     
    Money, Jul 16, 2011
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  10. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just watched the replay..it was more on the right side of the jaw
     
    boxbox, Jul 16, 2011
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  11. JM22

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    **** NO.
     
    JM22, Jul 16, 2011
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  12. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    it's not a dive because ramos had no chance to beat marquez but i think once he tasted that shot he decided to stay down ala etienne vs tyson.
     
    kmac, Jul 16, 2011
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  13. D50

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    It looked like a dive when I saw it live because that **** didn't look natural. Slow motion replays tell the true story, but it still looked awkward as hell.
     
    D50, Jul 16, 2011
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  14. StillWill

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    Watching it live it looked very fishy
     
    StillWill, Jul 16, 2011
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  15. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think anyone will be suggesting JMM paid him to take a dive, because, as you say, it wouldn't make sense for JMM to **** up his own warm-up fight. But I can't help but feel the guy took the easy way out, and stayed down to avoid a beating for 5-10 legit rounds. It was a good shot that sent him on his way, but I can't help but feel he casually laid down and played dead.

    But **** it, like I care anyway. I'm happy it ended the way it did. JMM needed rounds under his belt, and he didn't get **** from that fight. Bring on November, baby!
     
    Uncle Rico, Jul 16, 2011
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