Did Scott take a dive?

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  1. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah it was fixed but I don't know why they had to.
     
  2. baldbull

    baldbull Active Member Full Member

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    I love how they couldn't find someone who he wasn't buddies with to fight in his first 'step up' fight. Why did they even bother with this?
     
  3. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    that left hook hurt him pretty bad and i think he knew if he got up it would be lights out.

    i HIGHLY doubt he took a paid "dive" the dive he took was from the left hook. starting to make sense on why he stayed down against that bully
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :deal


    Pretty much every other person commenting in here is a complete moron who DKSAB, or is getting swept up in hysterical mob paranoia.

    Especially hilarious are those who predicate their argument on how "it didn't look right to me", or how they have "seen lots of knockouts in my day but never one like that", or the very best - "That isn't how it looks when someone has their equilibrium sapped by a shot (which I totally could have taken myself without even blinking!! :bart". :-( :lol: Like any of these idiots have a lick of expertise on matters neurological or pugilistic.

    This is the same bologna that followed Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Likar Ramos; a strange-looking but still clearly legitimate knockout that "didn't look right" to some people and therefore in their stupid little minds automatically had to be classed (and shouted from the mountaintops as if the sky were falling) as being a fix.

    This wasn't a fix (in the correct sense of the word, meaning it was a premeditated joint agreement between parties).

    Marquez vs. Ramos wasn't a fix.

    Clay vs. Liston II wasn't a fix.

    In all three cases you can say the losers obviously quit as the knockdown punches, while themselves legit, were not enough to keep them down. All three were dropped unexpectedly and then consciously bailed out, refusing to rise though able. You can surmise all three may have taken dives (meaning they - but not their opponents necessarily - came in knowing the 'plan' which they perhaps were paid off to execute...anticipating finding a soft place to lie down as soon as they got touched by their unwitting rival...) - but in none of those cases is there a reasonable argument for the benefactors - Clay, Marquez, and Wilder - being in on it (hence making it a 'fix')
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    regardless of a dive talk, Scott is a quitter, this can not be disputed
     
  7. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    exactly. the fix was in:deal
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That should be the underscored point and what I've been stressing from the very start.

    The hysteria over it being a prearranged thing between camps is going to look silly as time bears on. I suspect lots of people are going to be creeping back in here and editing their initial posts and feeling less arrogant regarding the knee-jerk poll results as it becomes obvious in hindsight that all this amounted to was Scott having a glass heart. (as he ALREADY demonstrated versus Chisora...I mean, nobody called Ruiz Jr. vs. Hamer a "fix". Hamer just up and quit...and had a track record of doing so. Here too Scott has a track record. Why anyone would question it being anything other than a case of him simply repeating past behavior and quitting when the going roughened, I have no idea. Occam's razor....)
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Jesus, how dense are you?

    QUITTING =/= fix.

    (If my fancy mathematical expression is too much for you, let me translate: quitting doesn't necessarily equate to a fix being in. If someone dies of a heart attack, yeah, it's possible they were shot with a poison dart by a secret agent. Possible, but not all that plausible. The simplest explanation is they just up and had a ****ing heart attack. Not every quit job is a fix...)
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No, him quitting was part of him being a puss and quitting.
     
  11. A|C|S

    A|C|S The original |A|C|S| Full Member

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    Im guessing most people missed the wink
     
  12. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    he wasnt going to get up when the shot wasnt even that hard. the fix was in. it was half a slap and his fist wasnt closed. scott has been hit by harder shots and got up. plus to make it look even more bizarre, deontay and scott are good friends
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I saw the stupid threads about the stupid meaningless wink.

    If you really believe that is "proof" of it being fixed you are utterly ******ed. If anything it proves the opposite. Do you think like if a freaking cartoon? :lol::lol: You think if they were throwing it, all of them rehearsing the outcome beforehand, Scott would give it away by doing something as monumentally stupid and blatant and pointlessly expository as WINKING at him on live national television? Are you KIDDING?

    He winked because they're longtime friends and he was acknowledging him during a lull in the competition (which, if you look at the early action, the way Scott was circling for dear life, he was legitimately scared of lingering in close to Wilder, probably exactly because of their friendship and having scouted his power in sparring), same as if he gave a head nod or said "wassup bro". That is all that was. Simplest explanation.

    To suggest it was a "wink wink, we about to throw this ****, my negro! :smooch" type of inside joke (except blatantly exposed to everyone outside) is laughable. You would half expect Scott to have then grown a long spiraled mustachio and twirled it between his thumb and knuckle pads, then hidden behind a very skinny tree and tied some damsel onto some railway tracks.

    ****S sake you people are dumb. :patsch
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The majority of humanity for a long time swore up and down the earth was flat.

    Hell, the majority still believe in an invisible daddy in the sky.

    The majority are dumb as hell. :good