Did Shogun Ever Explain What Happened In The Jones Fight?

Sure, I'm just more willing to forgive a guy who is coming off a serious injury than a guy who just didn't train very well.

 

Shogun will never regain his Pride form, but he can still come to the Octagon in sharper, fitter, better form with another couple of fights under his belt. If he continues to smash up the likes of Machida and Griffin in 1 round, he'll deserve his shot at the title again.

 

Fair enough.

 

Then it's a good job that I didn't say "I compare Wand-Rampage to Jones-Rua" then, isn't it?

Regardless, Wand-Rampage is a valid answer to the question which I was answering:

 

The rematch was still a kicking:

Noun: A second match or game between two teams or players

 

Christ, what a pedantic fail. So a 2nd fight is a rematch of an earlier fight, but a 3rd fight is not a rematch of an earlier fight? God Almighty. Get me out of here.

 

A rematch is academic if he does work his way back into title contention. But a Shogun Jones rematch is also business as usual for Jones, whichever way you want to paint it.

 

Let's wait and see. It'll be a much better fight than last time, if nothing else.

 

Id like to see Shogun in with someone like Phil Davis, and hopefully he can get a few tough rounds under his belt before he hopefully khtfo

I dont think he needs another striker he can blow out in a round

 

Good examples, however a quick knockout like Randleman against Crocop is quite different than a comprehensive beating and could have been expected to pan out differently in a rematch.

 

No. To use your own analogy.. remember Wandy Rampage II? Business as usual.

 

:thumbsup 205 is stacked with young guys who would love to make a name for themself against Rua.

 

Stop and think about what your writing for once.

One its not a rematch, and in reference to the rematch where a different outcome occurred. What does it matter if its a different outcome if the actual rematch when both men were decent and not faded ended in another doing.

But after Wandy had declined he got KTFO. When your talking about rematches where a one sided beating ends in a defeat by another guy what does it matter when the guy who got KTFO was a shell of his former self.

 

You said, quote, "all I do is look at the evidence staring me straight in the face."

I give you a gif of the defining moment of the fight, the moment that determined how the fight was going to play out. (When did it happen, 20 seconds into the fight?)

Also a quote from the defeated fighter where he says flat out that after the knee landed straight away, he was in Disneyland for the rest of the fight.

And a quote from the defeated fighter's brother saying that the knee took his legs away.

THAT is evidence staring you straight in the face.

What's your response?

"Oh no, Rua surgery Machina Coleman Rampage Arona PRIDE."

Well, you didn't even have a CHANCE to see how Rua had recovered from the surgery because Jones ****ed him up before it was even a factor. Unless the surgery significantly hindered Rua's ability to walk across the cage and get smashed with the knee immediately after the first bell rung, it played no role in the outcome of the fight. atsch

:hat

 

Agreed. The way Rua fights he is more than likely to annihilate anyone who tries to stand and bang with him in no time. Davis is an excellent wrestler and would be a very good indicator of how effective Rua can be now against such a fighter. This is the fight I would choose for him next.